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It would’ve been more convenient to me if this project provided standalone downloads for macOS and Windows. The current downloads for the Desktop version are on

by AnonHP 6y ago

It would’ve been more convenient to me if this project provided standalone downloads for macOS and Windows. The current downloads for the Desktop version are only available through the respective app stores on these two platforms.

it33 6y ago
Focalboard team here. Thanks for the feedback! Opened feature idea ticket on this here: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99
pbreit 6y ago
Downloading from app store is about as easy as it gets.
- paxys 6y ago
  I take it you have never tried using the Windows Store.
- eps 6y ago
  No, it's not. Requires a sign-up and comes with other cruft unrelated to the actual download.
  - bickeringyokel 6y ago
    Last time I used it was to test that my companies app could be downloaded from it. Well it wouldn't let me sign in using my existing outlook account apparently because we use our company domain name. So I had to create a completely separate microsoft domain account. Pretty annoying.
sneak 6y ago
It's a major bummer when devs don't even let you download the app from their own website, instead suggesting that you dox yourself to Apple to use their software. :( Mattermost (the company behind this) also builds spyware into Mattermost (which is not well documented) and I would be unsurprised to find the same nonsense going on with this. Is there a term for companies that are "open source in license only" that ignore all of the values of the free software community? If you download the app store version, and you edit the source code of the downloaded app to, say, scratch an itch, it will not run any longer because the app bundle signature verification will fail. Distributing unmodifiable applications defeats the whole purpose of a free software license.
- manigandham 6y ago
  Did you check the repo? You can download and build your own app easily, they have instructions for all 3 platforms: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard#building-and-running-standalone-desktop-apps https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard#building-and-runnin...
  - sneak 6y ago
    I am aware that one can build the app from source; my comments were orthogonal to that. It is customary for open source projects that involve complicated or proprietary build processes to provide binaries which one can simply download and run. App Store releases are decidedly not this: they include DRM, and have as a requirement the provision of personal information to (and agreement to an onerous legal contract with) a third party: the app store vendor. You can't get free apps from the mac App Store without giving Apple your phone number and email address. In the case of interpreted software (such as this) those interpreted (but nonetheless runnable) files should be modifiable. You shouldn't have to set up a toolchain (which on macOS is proprietary and requires its own EULA) to try out this software if you don’t have or want an AppleID. If you do jump through the App Store hoops, you can't edit the app and then run it.
    - it33 6y ago
      Focalboard team here. Added a feature idea on providing binaries: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 Thanks for your feedback! We'd love to hear more. We just setup this page with links on how to get more involved: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-feedback https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...!
      - sneak 6y ago
        Rip out your spyware first, it's a bigger problem than forcing users to the App Store.
manigandham 6y ago
https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard#building-and-running-standalone-desktop-apps https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard#building-and-runnin...
thepra 6y ago
Same here, I don't want to use any Microsoft account on windows 10, I was already burned by it once ._.
- murermader 6y ago
  You don‘t need a Microsoft account to download from the Microsoft Store.

by AnonHP 6y ago

it33 6y ago

Focalboard team here. Thanks for the feedback! Opened feature idea ticket on this here: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99

pbreit 6y ago

Downloading from app store is about as easy as it gets.

paxys 6y ago
I take it you have never tried using the Windows Store.
eps 6y ago
No, it's not. Requires a sign-up and comes with other cruft unrelated to the actual download.
- bickeringyokel 6y ago
  Last time I used it was to test that my companies app could be downloaded from it. Well it wouldn't let me sign in using my existing outlook account apparently because we use our company domain name. So I had to create a completely separate microsoft domain account. Pretty annoying.

sneak 6y ago

It's a major bummer when devs don't even let you download the app from their own website, instead suggesting that you dox yourself to Apple to use their software. :( Mattermost (the company behind this) also builds spyware into Mattermost (which is not well documented) and I would be unsurprised to find the same nonsense going on with this. Is there a term for companies that are "open source in license only" that ignore all of the values of the free software community? If you download the app store version, and you edit the source code of the downloaded app to, say, scratch an itch, it will not run any longer because the app bundle signature verification will fail. Distributing unmodifiable applications defeats the whole purpose of a free software license.

manigandham 6y ago
Did you check the repo? You can download and build your own app easily, they have instructions for all 3 platforms: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard#building-and-running-standalone-desktop-apps https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard#building-and-runnin...
- sneak 6y ago
  I am aware that one can build the app from source; my comments were orthogonal to that. It is customary for open source projects that involve complicated or proprietary build processes to provide binaries which one can simply download and run. App Store releases are decidedly not this: they include DRM, and have as a requirement the provision of personal information to (and agreement to an onerous legal contract with) a third party: the app store vendor. You can't get free apps from the mac App Store without giving Apple your phone number and email address. In the case of interpreted software (such as this) those interpreted (but nonetheless runnable) files should be modifiable. You shouldn't have to set up a toolchain (which on macOS is proprietary and requires its own EULA) to try out this software if you don’t have or want an AppleID. If you do jump through the App Store hoops, you can't edit the app and then run it.
  - it33 6y ago
    Focalboard team here. Added a feature idea on providing binaries: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 Thanks for your feedback! We'd love to hear more. We just setup this page with links on how to get more involved: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-feedback https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...!
    - sneak 6y ago
      Rip out your spyware first, it's a bigger problem than forcing users to the App Store.

manigandham 6y ago

https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard#building-and-running-standalone-desktop-apps https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard#building-and-runnin...

thepra 6y ago

Same here, I don't want to use any Microsoft account on windows 10, I was already burned by it once ._.

murermader 6y ago
You don‘t need a Microsoft account to download from the Microsoft Store.