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Correct — someone would use them for a large, bold font. I’m not saying they are wrong just that a ton of HTML is abused.

dhosek 6y ago
People abuse LaTeX in similar ways. Not to mention that there are some awful examples in Lamport's book. I've dug up my 75% complete LaTeX book that I wrote while I was teaching LaTeX classes for TUG and I'm going to try to finish it in the next couple of months. I think a big part of what will make the book good is as much what's being left out as what's being included.
tannhaeuser 6y ago
That's not entirely correct. HTML allows heading elements (<h1>-<h6>) wherever "flow content" is expected, but not in eg. "phrasing content", and also not in a number of content models allowing flow content generally but not heading elements specifically such as those for the <address>, <dt>, <th>, and <legend> elements. What that means is that eg. a <h2> element automatically ends an open <p> element when not closed explicitly. WHATWG's HTML spec clumsily expresses these SGML tag inference rules by enumerating explicitly all elements that end <p> elements (and of course, WHATWG's HTML specification process, as would be expected, then "forgets" to update the enumeration when new elements are introduced in later specs): > A p element's end tag may be omitted if the p element is immediately followed by an address, article, aside, blockquote, details, div, dl, fieldset, figcaption, figure, footer, form, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, header, hr, main, nav, ol, p, pre, section, table, or ul, element, or if there is no more content in the parent element and the parent element is an HTML element that is not an a, audio, del, ins, map, noscript, or video element Source: SGML DTD for W3C HTML 5.2 [1], prepared from W3C's HTML 5.2 spec, which in turn is derived from (an older version of) WHATWG's HTML spec. [1] http://sgmljs.net/docs/w3c-html52-dtd.html#element-categories http://sgmljs.net/docs/w3c-html52-dtd.html#element-categorie...
- leetrout 6y ago
  Huh. I had no idea! Thank you for sharing this with me!

dhosek 6y ago

People abuse LaTeX in similar ways. Not to mention that there are some awful examples in Lamport's book. I've dug up my 75% complete LaTeX book that I wrote while I was teaching LaTeX classes for TUG and I'm going to try to finish it in the next couple of months. I think a big part of what will make the book good is as much what's being left out as what's being included.

tannhaeuser 6y ago

That's not entirely correct. HTML allows heading elements (<h1>-<h6>) wherever "flow content" is expected, but not in eg. "phrasing content", and also not in a number of content models allowing flow content generally but not heading elements specifically such as those for the <address>, <dt>, <th>, and <legend> elements. What that means is that eg. a <h2> element automatically ends an open <p> element when not closed explicitly. WHATWG's HTML spec clumsily expresses these SGML tag inference rules by enumerating explicitly all elements that end <p> elements (and of course, WHATWG's HTML specification process, as would be expected, then "forgets" to update the enumeration when new elements are introduced in later specs): > A p element's end tag may be omitted if the p element is immediately followed by an address, article, aside, blockquote, details, div, dl, fieldset, figcaption, figure, footer, form, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, header, hr, main, nav, ol, p, pre, section, table, or ul, element, or if there is no more content in the parent element and the parent element is an HTML element that is not an a, audio, del, ins, map, noscript, or video element Source: SGML DTD for W3C HTML 5.2 [1], prepared from W3C's HTML 5.2 spec, which in turn is derived from (an older version of) WHATWG's HTML spec. [1] http://sgmljs.net/docs/w3c-html52-dtd.html#element-categories http://sgmljs.net/docs/w3c-html52-dtd.html#element-categorie...

leetrout 6y ago
Huh. I had no idea! Thank you for sharing this with me!