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> Apple's claim you're referring to is that they're environmentally friendly? They aren’t making this claim. They are simply announcing progress in improving
by zepto 6y ago
> Apple's claim you're referring to is that they're environmentally friendly?
They aren’t making this claim. They are simply announcing progress in improving their environmental impact. That is what they are claiming.
Your counterclaim is that their efforts to improve their environmental impact are ‘just greenwashing’.
- dmos62 6y agoGreenwashing is when you use something ecological to shape perception. The greenwasher does that one relatively cheap thing, and then can use it as a comeback. Again, I'm not commenting on Apple's environmental impact, which is relatively mundane. I'm commenting on the intention behind these investments. Can you honestly say you believe that they're doing this out of sincere communal and ecological concern?
- zepto 6y ago> I'm not commenting on Apple's environmental impact, which is relatively mundane. Aren’t you? > Can you honestly say you believe that they're doing this out of sincere communal and ecological concern? Of course they are. They have to operate in the same environment as everyone else.
- dmos62 6y agoWell, I guess society needs innocence, as well as cynicism.
- zepto 6y agoI take it you think of yourself as cynical. You don’t think that using sustainable energy sources is in the long term interests of business?
- dmos62 6y agoI do think it's in the interest of everyone, and that other strategies are suicidal in the long term. It's just that in my perception Apple (or most any big business) is short sighted.
- zepto 6y ago> It's just that in my perception Apple (or most any big business) is short sighted. Ok, so let me restate what your position seems to be: you acknowledge that the move is in their long term best interests, but you assume that they must be doing this for other reasons, because you’ve already decided that.
- dmos62 6y agoI've not said why I believe Apple to be selfish, nor have you asked me. Though, my comments about Apple's history of user hostility might give you a clue.