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Whether it be by international adoption, IVF or surrogacy, couples are willing to pay $10,000s to become parents. Finding families for those kids would not be

Whether it be by international adoption, IVF or surrogacy, couples are willing to pay $10,000s to become parents. Finding families for those kids would not be an issue, rather the contrary.

ch4s3 6y ago
> Finding families for those kids would not be an issue Having known a few people who have tried to adopt children in the US, I can say that the process seems like its full of issues.
- Thorrez 6y ago
  What issues? If the issue is lack of newborns, then that issue would be lessened or eliminated by banning abortion.
  - ch4s3 6y ago
    It’s seems to be a process a bureaucracy issue mostly. There a loads of infants going into the foster care system and loads of parents trying to adopt and waiting year only to find out they been denied for non-specific reasons. From what I’ve heard it’s far easier to adopt a child from abroad.
    - Thorrez 6y ago
      This could be caused by a shortage of kids. If there are a ton of parents who want to adopt but only a few kids available, then a ton of parents need to be rejected. If the government is forced to reject good parents, the government may give vague reasons. Foreign countries might not have the same shortage of kids. Many kids who go into foster care are not up for adoption because their biological parents want them back, and may get the chance in the future. But yes it could be mostly unnecessary bureaucracy. If abortion is banned, there will need to be very significant changes to the adoption process to streamline it and encourage more people to adopt.
btilly 6y ago
Per https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-unite... we do over 800k abortions per year in the USA. Per https://adoptionnetwork.com/adoption-myths-facts/domestic-us-statistics/ https://adoptionnetwork.com/adoption-myths-facts/domestic-us... we adopt around 135k babies per year in the USA. If we introduce this technology and don't make other changes, the supply of fetuses for adoption will substantially exceed the supply of adoptive homes.
- Thorrez 6y ago
  >exceed the supply of adoptive homes. The number of adoptions happening per year doesn't actually tell you the supply of adoptive homes. The number of adoptive homes might be much much larger than the number of adoptions that happens. Especially if potentially adoptive parents are no longer scared away by multi-year waiting lists. If we add in government subsidization of adoption expenses, or even pay adoptive parents, the number of adoptive parents could grow a lot. Some countries are already paying parents to have biological kids[1]; paying parents to adopt seems even more likely. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_bonus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_bonus

Whether it be by international adoption, IVF or surrogacy, couples are willing to pay $10,000s to become parents. Finding families for those kids would not be an issue, rather the contrary.

ch4s3 6y ago

> Finding families for those kids would not be an issue Having known a few people who have tried to adopt children in the US, I can say that the process seems like its full of issues.

Thorrez 6y ago
What issues? If the issue is lack of newborns, then that issue would be lessened or eliminated by banning abortion.
- ch4s3 6y ago
  It’s seems to be a process a bureaucracy issue mostly. There a loads of infants going into the foster care system and loads of parents trying to adopt and waiting year only to find out they been denied for non-specific reasons. From what I’ve heard it’s far easier to adopt a child from abroad.
  - Thorrez 6y ago
    This could be caused by a shortage of kids. If there are a ton of parents who want to adopt but only a few kids available, then a ton of parents need to be rejected. If the government is forced to reject good parents, the government may give vague reasons. Foreign countries might not have the same shortage of kids. Many kids who go into foster care are not up for adoption because their biological parents want them back, and may get the chance in the future. But yes it could be mostly unnecessary bureaucracy. If abortion is banned, there will need to be very significant changes to the adoption process to streamline it and encourage more people to adopt.

btilly 6y ago

Per https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-unite... we do over 800k abortions per year in the USA. Per https://adoptionnetwork.com/adoption-myths-facts/domestic-us-statistics/ https://adoptionnetwork.com/adoption-myths-facts/domestic-us... we adopt around 135k babies per year in the USA. If we introduce this technology and don't make other changes, the supply of fetuses for adoption will substantially exceed the supply of adoptive homes.

Thorrez 6y ago
>exceed the supply of adoptive homes. The number of adoptions happening per year doesn't actually tell you the supply of adoptive homes. The number of adoptive homes might be much much larger than the number of adoptions that happens. Especially if potentially adoptive parents are no longer scared away by multi-year waiting lists. If we add in government subsidization of adoption expenses, or even pay adoptive parents, the number of adoptive parents could grow a lot. Some countries are already paying parents to have biological kids[1]; paying parents to adopt seems even more likely. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_bonus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_bonus