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What makes the discussion bullshit? It's a hurtful name. It's good for society to recognize and discuss that.

clairity 6y ago
names don't hurt. how we respond is what can hurt, how we allow words to infect us. but we have brains that can rationalize that away, make us defiant and resilient against it. we're literally talking about the trivialities of 5 year olds when we talk so incessantly about names. what really hurts is, for instance, decades of redlining and systemic bias in politics, economics, education, nutrition, medicine, and a myriad of other daily, real issues that affect the lives of millions of americans, and billions of people worldwide. this discussion is bullshit because we are not talking about those things. it's a misdirection.
- solosoyokaze 6y ago
  Plenty of people are talking about those things. It's not either or. Names do hurt. Does blackface hurt? That's essentially what having a team called the Redskins is. It's important to talk about how mass media and the mainstream will accept openly racist symbols. In the case of Native Americans it's also important to talk about how they went through a barely recognized genocide and have been systematically discriminated against in a major way.
  - why_Mr_Anderson 6y ago
    It's important to learn about it, but being completely obsessed about the issue and view everything from its perspective is counter-productive. It's really an American thing, because many European nations went through similar experiences multiple times.
    - solosoyokaze 6y ago
      > It's really an American thing, because many European nations went through similar experiences multiple times. It’s not even legal to talk about Nazis in Germany. Imagine the uproar if a sports team was named after a caricature of Jewish people? People just want some basic dignity. The only people “obsessed” are those refusing to give it to them.

names don't hurt. how we respond is what can hurt, how we allow words to infect us. but we have brains that can rationalize that away, make us defiant and resilient against it. we're literally talking about the trivialities of 5 year olds when we talk so incessantly about names. what really hurts is, for instance, decades of redlining and systemic bias in politics, economics, education, nutrition, medicine, and a myriad of other daily, real issues that affect the lives of millions of americans, and billions of people worldwide. this discussion is bullshit because we are not talking about those things. it's a misdirection.

solosoyokaze 6y ago
Plenty of people are talking about those things. It's not either or. Names do hurt. Does blackface hurt? That's essentially what having a team called the Redskins is. It's important to talk about how mass media and the mainstream will accept openly racist symbols. In the case of Native Americans it's also important to talk about how they went through a barely recognized genocide and have been systematically discriminated against in a major way.
- why_Mr_Anderson 6y ago
  It's important to learn about it, but being completely obsessed about the issue and view everything from its perspective is counter-productive. It's really an American thing, because many European nations went through similar experiences multiple times.
  - solosoyokaze 6y ago
    > It's really an American thing, because many European nations went through similar experiences multiple times. It’s not even legal to talk about Nazis in Germany. Imagine the uproar if a sports team was named after a caricature of Jewish people? People just want some basic dignity. The only people “obsessed” are those refusing to give it to them.