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Of course, depending on which direction you feel like drawing the arrows, probability and entropy (thermodynamic) are caused by entropy (information). God seems

Of course, depending on which direction you feel like drawing the arrows, probability and entropy (thermodynamic) are caused by entropy (information). God seems to care very much about preventing cheating in computation, for no particular reason at all. Or, conversely, God cares very much about the universe having an arrow of time without any notable time-asymmetric properties, and had to make up all sorts of information patches to make that happen. In that case, probability flows downstream from thermodynamics.

neonological 6y ago
Information entropy is formally defined in terms of probability. Are you implying that some sort of inverse is possible and probability can de derived in terms of entropy? Could you write or cite what the formula would be in this case? It appears to me that the formula for entropy itself recursively suffers from rising entropy. Thus you cannot reverse it... You cannot derive individual probabilities of each state from just entropy. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory) (in terms of the mathematical formula from Wikipedia, by saying you can't reverse it, I am saying that no individual P(xi) can be determined when you are just given H(X) as an input) Thus because of the reasoning above, probability must be the axiomatic source of entropy. It makes sense intuitively. Entropy is the macro phenomenon arising from the micro phenomenon of probability. The law of numerically higher probability events being more likely to occur then numerically lower probability events when following the arrow of time is the more fundamental explanation of what's going on here. Entropy is simply a macro numerical summary of these probabilistic events happening in aggregate.
lisper 6y ago
You might find this interesting: http://blog.rongarret.info/2014/10/parallel-universes-and-arrow-of-time.html http://blog.rongarret.info/2014/10/parallel-universes-and-ar...

neonological 6y ago

Information entropy is formally defined in terms of probability. Are you implying that some sort of inverse is possible and probability can de derived in terms of entropy? Could you write or cite what the formula would be in this case? It appears to me that the formula for entropy itself recursively suffers from rising entropy. Thus you cannot reverse it... You cannot derive individual probabilities of each state from just entropy. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory) (in terms of the mathematical formula from Wikipedia, by saying you can't reverse it, I am saying that no individual P(xi) can be determined when you are just given H(X) as an input) Thus because of the reasoning above, probability must be the axiomatic source of entropy. It makes sense intuitively. Entropy is the macro phenomenon arising from the micro phenomenon of probability. The law of numerically higher probability events being more likely to occur then numerically lower probability events when following the arrow of time is the more fundamental explanation of what's going on here. Entropy is simply a macro numerical summary of these probabilistic events happening in aggregate.

lisper 6y ago

You might find this interesting: http://blog.rongarret.info/2014/10/parallel-universes-and-arrow-of-time.html http://blog.rongarret.info/2014/10/parallel-universes-and-ar...