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How do I go about using this without knowing which label I fall under? I would assume that to know how to work with X I need to know how my strengths and weakn

by mrrv 6y ago

How do I go about using this without knowing which label I fall under? I would assume that to know how to work with X I need to know how my strengths and weaknesses as Y relate to them—otherwise this is just another way to see the world as 'me vs them'

bluefirebrand 6y ago
There's some kind of online quiz in that site to find what type you are. The interesting part to me is that I don't think a person is necessarily just one type at a time. And there's another list of "these are the great types of developers" and I think people can probably be one or more of those good types and one or more of the bad types at the same time.
rideontime 6y ago
If you can't tell which of these labels applies to you, try asking your coworkers :)
kristopolous 6y ago
I think they're more patterns we're all susceptible to
- pawelduda 6y ago
  Would be much better if the website stated it explicitly. The current description is rather unfortunate.
NotPavlovsDog 6y ago
There is a view that the ego, being non-existent, is constantly shifting and re-framing. Observe the roles/personas you shift to throughout the day, how and why? I find the Actor theory applicable - in the end, everyone in an org has dominant interests, usually not many. And the most dangerous are the systems players - because organized groups can take out and dominate any individual. One of the reasons why those playing the system vs the value creators take over in most large organizations.
yowlingcat 6y ago
> otherwise this is just another way to see the world as 'me vs them' I think you hit the nail on the head. Personally, I'm really nervous of anything which further deepens "me vs them" dichotomies. They're really unproductive. If you're acting as a leader in any capacity building a product, you have to figure out how to nip these things in the bud before they metastasize like cancers.
MattGaiser 6y ago
Take a look at the The Problem header. There is usually a list under there discussing the actions/motivations they take. I have found myself in a few of them.

by mrrv 6y ago

bluefirebrand 6y ago

There's some kind of online quiz in that site to find what type you are. The interesting part to me is that I don't think a person is necessarily just one type at a time. And there's another list of "these are the great types of developers" and I think people can probably be one or more of those good types and one or more of the bad types at the same time.

rideontime 6y ago

If you can't tell which of these labels applies to you, try asking your coworkers :)

kristopolous 6y ago

I think they're more patterns we're all susceptible to

pawelduda 6y ago
Would be much better if the website stated it explicitly. The current description is rather unfortunate.

NotPavlovsDog 6y ago

There is a view that the ego, being non-existent, is constantly shifting and re-framing. Observe the roles/personas you shift to throughout the day, how and why? I find the Actor theory applicable - in the end, everyone in an org has dominant interests, usually not many. And the most dangerous are the systems players - because organized groups can take out and dominate any individual. One of the reasons why those playing the system vs the value creators take over in most large organizations.

yowlingcat 6y ago

> otherwise this is just another way to see the world as 'me vs them' I think you hit the nail on the head. Personally, I'm really nervous of anything which further deepens "me vs them" dichotomies. They're really unproductive. If you're acting as a leader in any capacity building a product, you have to figure out how to nip these things in the bud before they metastasize like cancers.

MattGaiser 6y ago

Take a look at the The Problem header. There is usually a list under there discussing the actions/motivations they take. I have found myself in a few of them.