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2b) Start coding again because your superiors promote you to management but treat you like you’re still an IC and ask why you haven’t contributed any points to

2b) Start coding again because your superiors promote you to management but treat you like you’re still an IC and ask why you haven’t contributed any points to the latest sprint while actively shutting you out of the kinds of discussions and decisions an EM would be making in most other orgs—-while somehow simultaneously asking you to also be the bearer of frequently changing and poorly communicated business priorities for your subordinates Yes it’s happened to me, yes I’m a bit bitter about it, yes I’m looking for a new job because of it

acconrad 6y ago
Are you interested in being an engineering manager? If so send me an email we're hiring
camjohnson26 6y ago
I keep seeing this IC term here but never saw it before, is that “Independent Consultant”?
- webloem 6y ago
  Individual Contributor
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
- ska 6y ago
  It means "individual contributor" , and implies you don't have any reports. As opposed to "tech lead" or "player-coach" (currently in vogue) which implies you are supposed to be effective as a technical contribute but also have a formal manager relationship with at least one person. Let a lone a classic manager who doesn't do much or any direct contribution technically. There is some confounding in this thread of manager-of-people roles and manager-of-things roles, which also causes confusion.
- shoo 6y ago
  less seriously: indentured chattel, information curdler, integration cobbler, indigent craftsperson, imaginative collaborator, introverted creative, incredulous cynic, inventive clerk.
gfodor 6y ago
Haha the cherry on top if so: were you paid the same?
- yaml-ops-guy 6y ago
  I sardonically feel like you already know the answer to this ;) (but yes)
Viliam1234 6y ago
Heh, I also fell into this trap once. (I no longer work there.) Just as much coding work as before, plus becoming the interface between the developers and the actual management, with no pay raise of course. Not able to change anything, but regularly reminded that I am responsible for the results.
- eecks 6y ago
  What was your solution? Just get a new job? I find myself in this situation now..
eecks 6y ago
Can we start a support group?
- yaml-ops-guy 6y ago
  I’ll bring snacks

acconrad 6y ago

Are you interested in being an engineering manager? If so send me an email we're hiring

camjohnson26 6y ago

I keep seeing this IC term here but never saw it before, is that “Independent Consultant”?

webloem 6y ago
Individual Contributor
deleted 6y ago
[deleted]
ska 6y ago
It means "individual contributor" , and implies you don't have any reports. As opposed to "tech lead" or "player-coach" (currently in vogue) which implies you are supposed to be effective as a technical contribute but also have a formal manager relationship with at least one person. Let a lone a classic manager who doesn't do much or any direct contribution technically. There is some confounding in this thread of manager-of-people roles and manager-of-things roles, which also causes confusion.
shoo 6y ago
less seriously: indentured chattel, information curdler, integration cobbler, indigent craftsperson, imaginative collaborator, introverted creative, incredulous cynic, inventive clerk.

gfodor 6y ago

Haha the cherry on top if so: were you paid the same?

yaml-ops-guy 6y ago
I sardonically feel like you already know the answer to this ;) (but yes)

Viliam1234 6y ago

Heh, I also fell into this trap once. (I no longer work there.) Just as much coding work as before, plus becoming the interface between the developers and the actual management, with no pay raise of course. Not able to change anything, but regularly reminded that I am responsible for the results.

eecks 6y ago
What was your solution? Just get a new job? I find myself in this situation now..

eecks 6y ago

Can we start a support group?

yaml-ops-guy 6y ago
I’ll bring snacks