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What you're arguing against is the straw-man form of my point, but I didn't express it with much detail, so you can't be blamed for that. I'm not saying that l

What you're arguing against is the straw-man form of my point, but I didn't express it with much detail, so you can't be blamed for that. I'm not saying that leaving out critical thinking from elementary education is an intentional act by specific people; I'm saying it results from the internal culture of government, which is power-hungry, self-preserving, and long-term, like your dictator. If it controls education, the culture of government will ensure people are being educated in what reinforces the government: what increases revenue, ensures that we have a strong economy, a powerful and unified defense, and a law-abiding and biddable population. Critical thinking has not historically benefited government, so encouragement of it has not become a prominent part of the culture of government.

michaelmrose 6y ago
There is an obvious bias in teaching a version of history that casts our own country in a good light but the impetus against science and logic comes not from a perverse desire of government to maintain control over the population but from a perverse desire for religion to maintain control over society.
- JasonFruit 6y ago
  Tell me more about how the public schools are biased toward religion.
  - eivarv 6y ago
    It might not be systematically biased toward religion as such, but I know of few other developed countries where creationism is taken seriously and taught as an "alternative" in school [0]. Or where books are stricken from reading lists or curriculums for fear they make kids question authority [1] – where or Harry Potter's inclusion in school libraries is challenged for their focus on magic (often based on claims that the novels contain occult or Satanic subtexts) [2]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_and_evolution_in_public_education_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_and_evolution_in_publ... [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jun/10/cory-doctorow-novel-pulled-school-reading-questioning-authority https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jun/10/cory-doctorow-... [2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20071230201312/http://www.ala.org/ala/alonline/currentnews/newsarchive/2000/january2000/harrypottertops.cfm https://web.archive.org/web/20071230201312/http://www.ala.or...

michaelmrose 6y ago

There is an obvious bias in teaching a version of history that casts our own country in a good light but the impetus against science and logic comes not from a perverse desire of government to maintain control over the population but from a perverse desire for religion to maintain control over society.

JasonFruit 6y ago
Tell me more about how the public schools are biased toward religion.
- eivarv 6y ago
  It might not be systematically biased toward religion as such, but I know of few other developed countries where creationism is taken seriously and taught as an "alternative" in school [0]. Or where books are stricken from reading lists or curriculums for fear they make kids question authority [1] – where or Harry Potter's inclusion in school libraries is challenged for their focus on magic (often based on claims that the novels contain occult or Satanic subtexts) [2]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_and_evolution_in_public_education_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_and_evolution_in_publ... [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jun/10/cory-doctorow-novel-pulled-school-reading-questioning-authority https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jun/10/cory-doctorow-... [2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20071230201312/http://www.ala.org/ala/alonline/currentnews/newsarchive/2000/january2000/harrypottertops.cfm https://web.archive.org/web/20071230201312/http://www.ala.or...