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There were left wing rioters burning down buildings all summer and pushing for extreme policies to be instituted in our government. I'm quite worried about that

by seneca 6y ago

There were left wing rioters burning down buildings all summer and pushing for extreme policies to be instituted in our government. I'm quite worried about that, and the fact that many power centers fell in line to pretend it wasn't happening.

knowaveragejoe 6y ago
Of course, these efforts have effectively gone nowhere. I'm more worried about the multitudes of heavily-armed radicals who believe in the election Big Lie or QAnon.
emodendroket 6y ago
And what impact have they had beyond a bunch of anodyne "we support black lives" statements? It's not even clear to me that the rioters were particularly well organized or politically engaged so I'm not sure that social media targeting would make much difference (with I guess the possible exception of censoring any police violence videos).
- yostrovs 6y ago
  Thousands of houses and businesses burned down, families moving out of cities, huge records set for guns sold and for first time gun buyers, and you pretend nothing happened last year.
  - emodendroket 6y ago
    It's neither the first time we had race riots nor, most likely, the last. What action do you think is needed?
    - seneca 6y ago
      These riots were lead by avowed Marxists. They received millions in donations from the largest companies in the world. These same companies lined up to shut down any criticism of these riots. At the same time, countervailing forced are censored and demonized (maybe rightfully, but wildly unequally) and swiftly wiped off the internet by coordinated efforts. I respect the fact that people can think these are good things, but pretending it's business as usual is just laughable.
      - emodendroket 6y ago
        Is that so? Why would the world's largest companies support the abolition of private property?
        seneca 6y ago
        I'm not a member of those companies' boards, so I could not say. I suspect because they're politically aligned with the "soundbite" message presented by the leadership of the riots, and that their marketing teams calculated it is beneficial for PR purposes. Useful Innocents.
        emodendroket 6y ago
        My suspicion is that the protests are far less coordinated or politically aligned than you suggest. For every "committed Marxist" involved I think you have a lot of plain old liberals and people with no real coherent political ideology at all.
        Dirlewanger 6y ago
        That's surely the case with many protestors, but these protests these widespread didn't happen without coordination at the top. Ironically, that's one of the reasons why Occupy Wall Street failed miserably: it was mostly just bored NYC-area college students that wanted something to do.
  - pfraze 6y ago
    Thousands?
    - yostrovs 6y ago
      Just the insurance payouts are close to $2 bullion. Also dozens of people were killed. https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a4...

by seneca 6y ago

knowaveragejoe 6y ago

Of course, these efforts have effectively gone nowhere. I'm more worried about the multitudes of heavily-armed radicals who believe in the election Big Lie or QAnon.

emodendroket 6y ago

And what impact have they had beyond a bunch of anodyne "we support black lives" statements? It's not even clear to me that the rioters were particularly well organized or politically engaged so I'm not sure that social media targeting would make much difference (with I guess the possible exception of censoring any police violence videos).

yostrovs 6y ago
Thousands of houses and businesses burned down, families moving out of cities, huge records set for guns sold and for first time gun buyers, and you pretend nothing happened last year.
- emodendroket 6y ago
  It's neither the first time we had race riots nor, most likely, the last. What action do you think is needed?
  - seneca 6y ago
    These riots were lead by avowed Marxists. They received millions in donations from the largest companies in the world. These same companies lined up to shut down any criticism of these riots. At the same time, countervailing forced are censored and demonized (maybe rightfully, but wildly unequally) and swiftly wiped off the internet by coordinated efforts. I respect the fact that people can think these are good things, but pretending it's business as usual is just laughable.
    - emodendroket 6y ago
      Is that so? Why would the world's largest companies support the abolition of private property?
      - seneca 6y ago
        I'm not a member of those companies' boards, so I could not say. I suspect because they're politically aligned with the "soundbite" message presented by the leadership of the riots, and that their marketing teams calculated it is beneficial for PR purposes. Useful Innocents.
        emodendroket 6y ago
        My suspicion is that the protests are far less coordinated or politically aligned than you suggest. For every "committed Marxist" involved I think you have a lot of plain old liberals and people with no real coherent political ideology at all.
        Dirlewanger 6y ago
        That's surely the case with many protestors, but these protests these widespread didn't happen without coordination at the top. Ironically, that's one of the reasons why Occupy Wall Street failed miserably: it was mostly just bored NYC-area college students that wanted something to do.
- pfraze 6y ago
  Thousands?
  - yostrovs 6y ago
    Just the insurance payouts are close to $2 bullion. Also dozens of people were killed. https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a4...