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Most people operate on a caricature version of the paradox, as opposed to Popper's more measured original. Most go with something like "If we tolerate people w
by soundnote 6y ago
Most people operate on a caricature version of the paradox, as opposed to Popper's more measured original.
Most go with something like "If we tolerate people who aren't 100% our version of kumbaya, we'll end up in tyranny", when Popper's original is restricted to people who have stopped listening, and would make their argument with pistols.
Most of the time, the paradox citers are closer to the "not listening" camp than not. Many are hideously fundamentalist ideologues who want to limit discussion to what they themselves find acceptable, not to deplatforming things that really try to deprive others of their freedom of choice.
- bitwize 6y agoIf Jan. 6 wasn't proof enough that the "election was stolen" crowd has stopped listening and is willing to make their point with arms, I don't know what would suffice for you.
- soundnote 6y agoFirst, Jan 6 is not relevant to the broader claim, and second is that most of the people on Jan 6th came there to protest, and did not in fact invade the Capitol building. The larpers and other assorted idiots who did pretty surely have lawsuits pending against them for obvious reasons. The vast throng may have been deluded, but did not choose to make their point with arms.
- usa5ever 6y agoThere was not a single firearm present at the riot, Brian Sicknick wasn't killed with a fire extinguisher, and the guy with zip ties found them in the Capitol, was there with his mother, and had no intent to take hostages What are you talking about? The Federal Courthouse in Portland has been under siege for months by an idea
- edbob 6y agoJan 6 is proof that 0.001% of the "election was stolen" crowd has stopped listening and would make their argument with pistols. We're talking about people expressing heterodox opinions on social media. They are not the same group. Particularly since the LARPers are in jail.