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Speaking of dishonest. You are claiming more than a hundred million die every day in China. That means for a country with a population of around 1.5 billion p

by jussij 6y ago

Speaking of dishonest. You are claiming more than a hundred million die every day in China. That means for a country with a population of around 1.5 billion people, they will all be dead in 15 days. Now I'm not claiming Wikipedia is correct, or the Chinese government is some sort of model to which we should all aspire, however I certainly know your claims are false. Finally you seem to have forgotten that China is in fact a communist regime.

sqqqqrly 6y ago
You did not read what I wrote. Point 1: Over a hundred million human beings have died because of communism. Point 2: More die every day in China. There was a "period" between. Why the hostility? Stalin Mao killed many many millions. This is not in dispute. The W Stalin page is better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Death_toll_and_allegations_of_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Death_toll_and_a... Referring to point 2: I am of course referring to the Uighurs. Ref: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037 Their treatment is very sad. But really...why so hostile?
- jussij 6y ago
  I can now see your point was something like this: "Over a hundred million human beings have died because of communism and more are still dying every day in China." But I'm still confused by your "Excess deaths? This is dishonest" remark. I read the Wikipedia quote as noting communist party rule generally results in large numbers (i.e. excessive) of deaths, a factor that is inherent in the communist party system of rule. That is very similar to the point you are trying to make. In any case I agree with your points from above which clearly show many people have died under communist party rule and I also think the Wikipedia page that you referenced suggests likewise.

by jussij 6y ago

sqqqqrly 6y ago

You did not read what I wrote. Point 1: Over a hundred million human beings have died because of communism. Point 2: More die every day in China. There was a "period" between. Why the hostility? Stalin Mao killed many many millions. This is not in dispute. The W Stalin page is better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Death_toll_and_allegations_of_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Death_toll_and_a... Referring to point 2: I am of course referring to the Uighurs. Ref: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037 Their treatment is very sad. But really...why so hostile?

jussij 6y ago
I can now see your point was something like this: "Over a hundred million human beings have died because of communism and more are still dying every day in China." But I'm still confused by your "Excess deaths? This is dishonest" remark. I read the Wikipedia quote as noting communist party rule generally results in large numbers (i.e. excessive) of deaths, a factor that is inherent in the communist party system of rule. That is very similar to the point you are trying to make. In any case I agree with your points from above which clearly show many people have died under communist party rule and I also think the Wikipedia page that you referenced suggests likewise.