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The U.S. is leading an economic war against China and these sanctions are just part of the economic war.

by aritmo 6y ago

giuliomagnifico 6y ago
I’m not with you. China is making something terrible in Xinjiang. China is outside the U.N. convention and if you use something like slaves to raise your economic power, a democratic state must give you some limits on the products exported from the region where China is commits a genocide.
- bingbong70 6y ago
  Without 1 discredited source, Zenz, the whole genocide claim falls apart. I'm getting serious "Iraq WMD" flashbacks. >if you use something like slaves to raise your economic power Sounds like prison labor in the US.
  - mlindner 6y ago
    Nonsense. NYTimes did undercover reporting, with video reporting showing it. They interviewed former detainees. Satellite imagery clearly shows the camps. Please take your propaganda elsewhere.
    - bingbong70 6y ago
      Link? I've only seen unsubstantiated nonsense from MSM when it comes to this topic...wild extrapolations that ignore the real terrorism problem in western China. Also I've never seen any evidence of the scale of this operation that is claimed in MSM...just satellite pics of random buildings with captions we are supposed to take as gospel truth from historically problematic/misleading media sources...very Iraq-WMD-esque coverage... Manufacturing consent seems to have a common pattern, I can't be the only one noticing it.
      - mlindner 6y ago
        Ah my mistake I misremembered, it was Vice news not NYtimes. Here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ
        bingbong70 6y ago
        Saudi style Wahabism takes root, many terrorist attacks take place, and a journalist shows up seeming shocked there is a security presence that is curious about her activities... Is she clueless about the terrorism? It's barely mentioned. It would be like going to Iraq during the war and not/barely mentioning the insurgents or that a war is taking place for that matter... then acting uncomfortable about the excessive number of armed soldiers. The most disturbing thing about that video is the ominous music. The kindergarten assumption that "no kids would be in school on a Sunday" justifies calling it a concentration camp or concentration orphanage? I must say I really don't see the damning evidence, which is why they saved the school footage for the end, they had nothing to use as a climax. Kids chanting "unity among ethnicities" is the least of our worries. TBF, the kids separated from their parents on our southern border look like they are in much worse conditions. Vice seems to have captured very little interesting footage other than security forces tailing a journalist that was acting suspicious...
        mlindner 6y ago
        So you're just going to move the goalposts rather than respond. Classic Chinese propaganda.

The U.S. is leading an economic war against China and these sanctions are just part of the economic war.

by aritmo 6y ago

The U.S. is leading an economic war against China and these sanctions are just part of the economic war.

I’m not with you. China is making something terrible in Xinjiang. China is outside the U.N. convention and if you use something like slaves to raise your economic power, a democratic state must give you some limits on the products exported from the region where China is commits a genocide.

bingbong70 6y ago
Without 1 discredited source, Zenz, the whole genocide claim falls apart. I'm getting serious "Iraq WMD" flashbacks. >if you use something like slaves to raise your economic power Sounds like prison labor in the US.
- mlindner 6y ago
  Nonsense. NYTimes did undercover reporting, with video reporting showing it. They interviewed former detainees. Satellite imagery clearly shows the camps. Please take your propaganda elsewhere.
  - bingbong70 6y ago
    Link? I've only seen unsubstantiated nonsense from MSM when it comes to this topic...wild extrapolations that ignore the real terrorism problem in western China. Also I've never seen any evidence of the scale of this operation that is claimed in MSM...just satellite pics of random buildings with captions we are supposed to take as gospel truth from historically problematic/misleading media sources...very Iraq-WMD-esque coverage... Manufacturing consent seems to have a common pattern, I can't be the only one noticing it.
    - mlindner 6y ago
      Ah my mistake I misremembered, it was Vice news not NYtimes. Here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ
      - bingbong70 6y ago
        Saudi style Wahabism takes root, many terrorist attacks take place, and a journalist shows up seeming shocked there is a security presence that is curious about her activities... Is she clueless about the terrorism? It's barely mentioned. It would be like going to Iraq during the war and not/barely mentioning the insurgents or that a war is taking place for that matter... then acting uncomfortable about the excessive number of armed soldiers. The most disturbing thing about that video is the ominous music. The kindergarten assumption that "no kids would be in school on a Sunday" justifies calling it a concentration camp or concentration orphanage? I must say I really don't see the damning evidence, which is why they saved the school footage for the end, they had nothing to use as a climax. Kids chanting "unity among ethnicities" is the least of our worries. TBF, the kids separated from their parents on our southern border look like they are in much worse conditions. Vice seems to have captured very little interesting footage other than security forces tailing a journalist that was acting suspicious...
        mlindner 6y ago
        So you're just going to move the goalposts rather than respond. Classic Chinese propaganda.