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> Aren't you worried that by applying political labels like 'left' (or equally often seen in the US context: 'liberal') for something that does not really repre
by newswasboring 6y ago
> Aren't you worried that by applying political labels like 'left' (or equally often seen in the US context: 'liberal') for something that does not really represent that political ideology, you are at risk of further polarizing such debates?
> It does have all the looks of virtue signalling without any real justification.
If you combine both the statements, you are committing a no true Scotsman fallacy.
- amanaplanacanal 6y agoI don’t think so. It’s not that no true Scotsmen are idiots, it’s just that the idiots are not representative. Maybe 10% of Scotsmen are idiots. The other 90% are fine. The idiots are just very loud on social media.
- newswasboring 6y agoThis is a soft form of the same argument. Whatever may be the proportion of those people, the community still has to own up to it if this portion exists.
- tremon 6y agothe community still has to own up to it Why? For what purpose are you burdening 90% of True Scotsmen with an obligation of your choosing?
- newswasboring 6y agoBecause it's a part of their community and each community needs to take care of its own problems.
- runarberg 6y agoWhen it comes to political ideology invoking a no true Scotsman is not always invalid. As an example, as a leftist I can say: “A socialist revolution without social justice is not socialist”. Yes, this is a no true Scotsman fallacy, but here I am merely disavowing a subgroup of people that might share my economic believes that workers ought to take over the means of production, but fail to see that the racial injustice in our economic system is part of the problem. In my view, if you don’t see that, you are not a real leftist.