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> The German way is to pretend racism just doesn't exist I don't know if and where you've been to Germany, but having went to school there entire years of our

> The German way is to pretend racism just doesn't exist I don't know if and where you've been to Germany, but having went to school there entire years of our history class were dedicated to the Nazis.

funcDropShadow 6y ago
> but having went to school there entire years of our history class were dedicated to the Nazis. To be precise it is about the atrocities committed by the Nazis and how they managed to subvert the society to be able do their crimes. By the way they started early on to change the everyday language.
- bionoid 6y ago
  "Ministry of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment" - it was candidly named, if nothing else. > Indeed, Goebbels initially opposed the term propaganda, recognizing that in popular usage, both in Germany and abroad, it was associated with lies. Even after the ministry had been in existence for a year, he proposed changing its name to Ministry of Culture and Public Enlightenment, but Hitler vetoed this proposal. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/ministry-of-propaganda-and-public-enlightenment https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/ministry-o...
yosamino 6y ago
See the thing about that is, that it let's you neatly compartmentalize racism to the nazis, and since the nazis don't exist anymore (well, the ones being talked about in history class) there is not racism or antisemitism anymore. That is of course simplifying it a lot, but Germany as a whole has a problem with right-wing extremism who almost regularely murder people, and a police force who regularly have scandals involving members being present day Nazis, and these Problems not being adressed properly. So I am not sure learning about The Nazis of the olden days is very helpful withouth showing the reach that these ideologies have into present day Germany. And I say that as someone who has gone through these years that you reference as well.

funcDropShadow 6y ago

> but having went to school there entire years of our history class were dedicated to the Nazis. To be precise it is about the atrocities committed by the Nazis and how they managed to subvert the society to be able do their crimes. By the way they started early on to change the everyday language.

bionoid 6y ago
"Ministry of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment" - it was candidly named, if nothing else. > Indeed, Goebbels initially opposed the term propaganda, recognizing that in popular usage, both in Germany and abroad, it was associated with lies. Even after the ministry had been in existence for a year, he proposed changing its name to Ministry of Culture and Public Enlightenment, but Hitler vetoed this proposal. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/ministry-of-propaganda-and-public-enlightenment https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/ministry-o...

yosamino 6y ago

See the thing about that is, that it let's you neatly compartmentalize racism to the nazis, and since the nazis don't exist anymore (well, the ones being talked about in history class) there is not racism or antisemitism anymore. That is of course simplifying it a lot, but Germany as a whole has a problem with right-wing extremism who almost regularely murder people, and a police force who regularly have scandals involving members being present day Nazis, and these Problems not being adressed properly. So I am not sure learning about The Nazis of the olden days is very helpful withouth showing the reach that these ideologies have into present day Germany. And I say that as someone who has gone through these years that you reference as well.