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It’s clotting, not cluttering. And that decision was taken by politicians keen to cover their ass, afraid of idiotic anti-vaxxers. Here’s what the EU regulator

It’s clotting, not cluttering. And that decision was taken by politicians keen to cover their ass, afraid of idiotic anti-vaxxers. Here’s what the EU regulator says. The European Medicines Agency is 'firmly convinced' benefits outweigh risks - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56411561 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56411561

Uberphallus 6y ago
> And that decision was taken by politicians keen to cover their ass, afraid of idiotic anti-vaxxers. It's more of the EU playing "well, we didn't want it anyway" after getting the short end of the stick in AZ vaccine production (the EU has been a net exporter of AZ vaccine, but AZ deliveries are lagging behind significantly compared to UK).
- youngtaff 6y ago
  They didn't get the short stick. EU deliveries of the AZ vaccine are behind the UK ones because they started production at least 3 months later and it takes time to debug pharmaceutical plants for new drugs. Even in the UK the production process is still inconsistent with fluctuating yields
  - FranzFerdiNaN 6y ago
    One of the production places in the EU mentioned in the EU contract still isnt up and running because AZ has refused to file the proper paperwork to be able to use it. Its insane.
    - youngtaff 6y ago
      Is that Halix in NL - https://www.politico.eu/article/breton-no-astrazeneca-jabs-exported-from-netherlands-after-eu-export-controls/ https://www.politico.eu/article/breton-no-astrazeneca-jabs-e...
  - planetree 6y ago
    UK got many of its initial doses from plants in the EU (Netherlands and Belgium).
tchalla 6y ago
The decision is also due to legal issues, at least in Germany. The number of cases for clots exceed the threshold. The govt has no choice to stop or face lawsuits since it is a state vaccination program.
- guilhas 6y ago
  If that is the case, why then isn't the Pfizer also suspended? Since it generated the same deaths
  - tchalla 6y ago
    The number of cases or deaths are conditional on the cases in the general population, it’s not an absolute number. The cases for AZ - 7 cerebral vein thombrosis in 1.6M vaccinations - which is higher than in general population. AZ will get back on the market with a restricted use or a warning label.
redis_mlc 6y ago
> idiotic anti-vaxxers You mean, people concerned with their health and the fact that these vaccines were rushed, usually without adequate public disclosure of risks?
FranzFerdiNaN 6y ago
Its not done by politicians. Its done by the national agencies that investigate and approve medicines.
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Uberphallus 6y ago

> And that decision was taken by politicians keen to cover their ass, afraid of idiotic anti-vaxxers. It's more of the EU playing "well, we didn't want it anyway" after getting the short end of the stick in AZ vaccine production (the EU has been a net exporter of AZ vaccine, but AZ deliveries are lagging behind significantly compared to UK).

youngtaff 6y ago
They didn't get the short stick. EU deliveries of the AZ vaccine are behind the UK ones because they started production at least 3 months later and it takes time to debug pharmaceutical plants for new drugs. Even in the UK the production process is still inconsistent with fluctuating yields
- FranzFerdiNaN 6y ago
  One of the production places in the EU mentioned in the EU contract still isnt up and running because AZ has refused to file the proper paperwork to be able to use it. Its insane.
  - youngtaff 6y ago
    Is that Halix in NL - https://www.politico.eu/article/breton-no-astrazeneca-jabs-exported-from-netherlands-after-eu-export-controls/ https://www.politico.eu/article/breton-no-astrazeneca-jabs-e...
- planetree 6y ago
  UK got many of its initial doses from plants in the EU (Netherlands and Belgium).

tchalla 6y ago

The decision is also due to legal issues, at least in Germany. The number of cases for clots exceed the threshold. The govt has no choice to stop or face lawsuits since it is a state vaccination program.

guilhas 6y ago
If that is the case, why then isn't the Pfizer also suspended? Since it generated the same deaths
- tchalla 6y ago
  The number of cases or deaths are conditional on the cases in the general population, it’s not an absolute number. The cases for AZ - 7 cerebral vein thombrosis in 1.6M vaccinations - which is higher than in general population. AZ will get back on the market with a restricted use or a warning label.

redis_mlc 6y ago

> idiotic anti-vaxxers You mean, people concerned with their health and the fact that these vaccines were rushed, usually without adequate public disclosure of risks?

FranzFerdiNaN 6y ago

Its not done by politicians. Its done by the national agencies that investigate and approve medicines.

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