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So basically they took out the most interesting parts and left the rest. So this is just spin from EMA. "manipulated data" sounds like Orwellian double speak f

So basically they took out the most interesting parts and left the rest. So this is just spin from EMA. "manipulated data" sounds like Orwellian double speak from the company. I remember the planned parenthood video, where they where haggling over prices for parts. Planned parenthood claimed it was a manipulated video too. Because it was an excerpt. They even locked up somebody for making the video. Never mind that the full unedited video was also released on the internet. And a few years earlier I watched a documentary on CBC about a black market in body parts. Little bits and pieces used during surgery. Which this totally corroborated.

devwastaken 6y ago
You're assuming "the most interesting parts" are from original documents and not doctored. There are many interests that create anti-vax campaigns, much of it coming from singular sources and brought to you by bots. Meaning somebody is making money or political power from it. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/facebook-anti-vax-influencers/ https://www.dailydot.com/debug/facebook-anti-vax-influencers... If there's actual proof the PP video was legitimate surely it's in that criminal case. Provide specific and high quality proof on specific instances, making wide generalizations does not make it convincing.
- jtbayly 6y ago
  The case was for breaking the law to get the information. It didn’t matter that it was accurate and the public should know what was happening.
  - devwastaken 6y ago
    Which will show what kind of actions they did or did not actually go through. Are you basing the proof of pp selling parts soley based on an edited video?
    - jtbayly 6y ago
      No it won't, and no I'm not. Did you bother to look into this at all or are you just repeating talking points?
lambda_obrien 6y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood_2015_undercover_videos_controversy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood_2015_unde... I'm not sure where you got your info, but PP was totally vindicated after 15 states investigated.
- dukeofdoom 6y ago
  yeah, don't really want to get into it. But the videos where real. The haggling for the price of fetus parts was real. Planned Parenthood defence rest on the claim that they where not making a profit. Which would be akin to your dentist charging you $500 to take out your daughter's tooth, causing her extra pain during extraction to make sure the tooth came out whole, then secretly selling her tooth for tens of thousands with out her knowledge. Then after the dentist gets caught in an undercover video haggling over the price to a potential buyer. The courts decide that that he made no money because after he pays himself a million dollar salary, his business is basically brake even. In a final bit of dystopian irony they charge and jail the guy that made the undercover video.
  - perl4ever 6y ago
    "a Texas grand jury chartered to investigate Planned Parenthood found no wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood but instead indicted CMP founder David Daleiden and member Sandra Merritt" It sounds like they got people together to go after PP and then it didn't turn out that way. Doesn't that cut against the dystopia in your imagination where things are predetermined?
  - sterlind 6y ago
    The parent wikipedia article shows that CMP attempted to entrap Planned Parenthood by offering them $1600 for fetal tissues, but PP declined. Mike Pence's own investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing. So no, you're wrong, and the proof is in the link you're replying to.
    - dukeofdoom 6y ago
      Just watch the video and get back to me. Lets just say the wikipedia article is carefully phrased. Some might say it's "deceptively edited" /s
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devwastaken 6y ago

You're assuming "the most interesting parts" are from original documents and not doctored. There are many interests that create anti-vax campaigns, much of it coming from singular sources and brought to you by bots. Meaning somebody is making money or political power from it. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/facebook-anti-vax-influencers/ https://www.dailydot.com/debug/facebook-anti-vax-influencers... If there's actual proof the PP video was legitimate surely it's in that criminal case. Provide specific and high quality proof on specific instances, making wide generalizations does not make it convincing.

jtbayly 6y ago
The case was for breaking the law to get the information. It didn’t matter that it was accurate and the public should know what was happening.
- devwastaken 6y ago
  Which will show what kind of actions they did or did not actually go through. Are you basing the proof of pp selling parts soley based on an edited video?
  - jtbayly 6y ago
    No it won't, and no I'm not. Did you bother to look into this at all or are you just repeating talking points?

lambda_obrien 6y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood_2015_undercover_videos_controversy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood_2015_unde... I'm not sure where you got your info, but PP was totally vindicated after 15 states investigated.

dukeofdoom 6y ago
yeah, don't really want to get into it. But the videos where real. The haggling for the price of fetus parts was real. Planned Parenthood defence rest on the claim that they where not making a profit. Which would be akin to your dentist charging you $500 to take out your daughter's tooth, causing her extra pain during extraction to make sure the tooth came out whole, then secretly selling her tooth for tens of thousands with out her knowledge. Then after the dentist gets caught in an undercover video haggling over the price to a potential buyer. The courts decide that that he made no money because after he pays himself a million dollar salary, his business is basically brake even. In a final bit of dystopian irony they charge and jail the guy that made the undercover video.
- perl4ever 6y ago
  "a Texas grand jury chartered to investigate Planned Parenthood found no wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood but instead indicted CMP founder David Daleiden and member Sandra Merritt" It sounds like they got people together to go after PP and then it didn't turn out that way. Doesn't that cut against the dystopia in your imagination where things are predetermined?
- sterlind 6y ago
  The parent wikipedia article shows that CMP attempted to entrap Planned Parenthood by offering them $1600 for fetal tissues, but PP declined. Mike Pence's own investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing. So no, you're wrong, and the proof is in the link you're replying to.
  - dukeofdoom 6y ago
    Just watch the video and get back to me. Lets just say the wikipedia article is carefully phrased. Some might say it's "deceptively edited" /s

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