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> That's what the video is arguing, but it won't be the case unless we've fully satisfied all of our desires. If we haven't, there are, by definition, still thi

> That's what the video is arguing, but it won't be the case unless we've fully satisfied all of our desires. If we haven't, there are, by definition, still things to do. Obviously true, but that doesn't mean the things still left to do can be done by anyone. In a world where there's not enough food or housing, everyone can be gainfully employed, since just about everyone can learn to plant seeds or cut wood. In a world where all of our material desires are already met, plenty of people will still want e.g. new AAA-quality video games every year. But what are the people who aren't programmers or artists supposed to do?

Swizec 6y ago
> But what are the people who aren't programmers or artists supposed to do? Keep the programmers and artists happy. You can make a lot more and better AAA games if 50% of your time isn’t spent on life chores.
- riskable 6y ago
  > You can make a lot more and better AAA games if 50% of your time isn’t spent on life chores. That's what the robots are for! And they never complain, never need to sleep, and are always one software upgrade away from amazing new capabilities.
  - dkersten 6y ago
    That, and human population is still growing, meaning there are more and more humans who need jobs, yet as robots improve, the types of jobs left for humans get fewer. At some point, the lines will cross. Maybe it won't be soon, but if population keeps growing and robots keep being able to do more jobs, then eventually it will happen.
    - Swizec 6y ago
      I just finished reading Bullshit Jobs. The author makes a good argument for the users that because we decided working is a moral good, we are also great at making up things for people to do. For example: the ballooning of admin jobs in academia that add no benefit to services rendered other than keeping other useless admins busy. According to the book, when you remove the bullshit jobs and bullshit work most of us already work 20 hour weeks or less.
      - webmaven 6y ago
        > According to the book, when you remove the bullshit jobs and bullshit work most of us already work 20 hour weeks or less. That wouldn't be a problem if the BS was more or less evenly distributed. But unfortunately the distribution is highly uneven, so eliminating the BS, even if you resolve to not cut paychecks, would leave quite a few folks entirely unemployed (so no paycheck at all), and quite a few more significantly underemployed (so at high risk of their employer consolidating three 5h/week jobs into one 15h/week job).
  - morlockabove 6y ago
    The robots will be making better AAA games than humans before they're able to clean a house as well as a human.

Swizec 6y ago

> But what are the people who aren't programmers or artists supposed to do? Keep the programmers and artists happy. You can make a lot more and better AAA games if 50% of your time isn’t spent on life chores.

riskable 6y ago
> You can make a lot more and better AAA games if 50% of your time isn’t spent on life chores. That's what the robots are for! And they never complain, never need to sleep, and are always one software upgrade away from amazing new capabilities.
- dkersten 6y ago
  That, and human population is still growing, meaning there are more and more humans who need jobs, yet as robots improve, the types of jobs left for humans get fewer. At some point, the lines will cross. Maybe it won't be soon, but if population keeps growing and robots keep being able to do more jobs, then eventually it will happen.
  - Swizec 6y ago
    I just finished reading Bullshit Jobs. The author makes a good argument for the users that because we decided working is a moral good, we are also great at making up things for people to do. For example: the ballooning of admin jobs in academia that add no benefit to services rendered other than keeping other useless admins busy. According to the book, when you remove the bullshit jobs and bullshit work most of us already work 20 hour weeks or less.
    - webmaven 6y ago
      > According to the book, when you remove the bullshit jobs and bullshit work most of us already work 20 hour weeks or less. That wouldn't be a problem if the BS was more or less evenly distributed. But unfortunately the distribution is highly uneven, so eliminating the BS, even if you resolve to not cut paychecks, would leave quite a few folks entirely unemployed (so no paycheck at all), and quite a few more significantly underemployed (so at high risk of their employer consolidating three 5h/week jobs into one 15h/week job).
- morlockabove 6y ago
  The robots will be making better AAA games than humans before they're able to clean a house as well as a human.