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Huge difference between running a graphics card at 100% capacity (ok, most eth miners underclock but still use a good amount of wattage close to 100% of the tim

by cheeze 6y ago

Huge difference between running a graphics card at 100% capacity (ok, most eth miners underclock but still use a good amount of wattage close to 100% of the time) and someone playing a video game for a few hours after work one day. Nowhere near the same amount of energy. Gaming certainly doesn't use 1% of the planets energy, for example...

Dma54rhs 6y ago
It does - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285396475_Taming_the_energy_use_of_gaming_computers https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285396475_Taming_th...
- FridgeSeal 6y ago
  The number of people with high-powered gaming machines-as described in that paper- is comparatively small, and their sustained energy use would be a fraction of what crypto-currencies waste. Moreover, socially games are probably less damaging and they’re not attempting to strip money off people in large volumes.
  - Dma54rhs 6y ago
    It says 120tw/h a year right there, which is the same as bitcoin now. Do you think it's a bogus paper or what are arguing against? I agree with the criticism about bitcoin, I just find gaming industry as useless burning carbon and trying to milk money from the naive.
    - kevingadd 6y ago
      Are you in favor of banning movies too then? We burn a lot of resources (both physical resources and electricity) to film and distribute and show movies, and we could repurpose all of that for other pursuits
      - Dma54rhs 6y ago
        No, all I said is that in my eyes they are on par, not that we should ban any of them.
    - Arbalest 6y ago
      > Some get kick out of games, some out shitcoins. > I just find gaming industry as useless burning carbon and trying to milk money from the naive. Can Video Games be divorced from the Gaming industry? Are you saying that gaming is as invalid a form of entertainment as crypto mining and speculation is? So other forms of entertainment are more valid, or is entertainment not a valid use of time? If we assume that video gaming is not an invalid form of entertainment, how many gamers are measured compared to miners and speculators? I suspect that entertainment person-hours per joule is substantially better for video games than it is for bitcoin. In which case, if video games were a valid form of entertainment, then what we want are video games that use less energy. If video gaming is a lesser form of entertainment, why? People said 100 years ago or thereabouts that books were a bad influence on society. I don't quite understand what the naive part of video gaming is though. Is that in reference to gatcha?

by cheeze 6y ago

Dma54rhs 6y ago

It does - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285396475_Taming_the_energy_use_of_gaming_computers https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285396475_Taming_th...

FridgeSeal 6y ago
The number of people with high-powered gaming machines-as described in that paper- is comparatively small, and their sustained energy use would be a fraction of what crypto-currencies waste. Moreover, socially games are probably less damaging and they’re not attempting to strip money off people in large volumes.
- Dma54rhs 6y ago
  It says 120tw/h a year right there, which is the same as bitcoin now. Do you think it's a bogus paper or what are arguing against? I agree with the criticism about bitcoin, I just find gaming industry as useless burning carbon and trying to milk money from the naive.
  - kevingadd 6y ago
    Are you in favor of banning movies too then? We burn a lot of resources (both physical resources and electricity) to film and distribute and show movies, and we could repurpose all of that for other pursuits
    - Dma54rhs 6y ago
      No, all I said is that in my eyes they are on par, not that we should ban any of them.
  - Arbalest 6y ago
    > Some get kick out of games, some out shitcoins. > I just find gaming industry as useless burning carbon and trying to milk money from the naive. Can Video Games be divorced from the Gaming industry? Are you saying that gaming is as invalid a form of entertainment as crypto mining and speculation is? So other forms of entertainment are more valid, or is entertainment not a valid use of time? If we assume that video gaming is not an invalid form of entertainment, how many gamers are measured compared to miners and speculators? I suspect that entertainment person-hours per joule is substantially better for video games than it is for bitcoin. In which case, if video games were a valid form of entertainment, then what we want are video games that use less energy. If video gaming is a lesser form of entertainment, why? People said 100 years ago or thereabouts that books were a bad influence on society. I don't quite understand what the naive part of video gaming is though. Is that in reference to gatcha?