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If your commute is less than 5 miles a day, you should probably be riding a bike or an ebike. Pushing around a big car to travel what is essentially walking dis

If your commute is less than 5 miles a day, you should probably be riding a bike or an ebike. Pushing around a big car to travel what is essentially walking distance is a waste (and expensive). Even 10 miles a day is easy ebike range.

iso1631 6y ago
In my case, it's not every day, it's narrow country lanes, it rains, it involves transporting kids and equipment. You seem to be claiming it's better to travel 50 miles a day by car than 10 miles a day, which is clearly wrong.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  > You seem to be claiming it's better to travel 50 miles a day by car than 10 miles a day, which is clearly wrong. I don’t understand at all how you interpret what I said to mean this.
  - iso1631 6y ago
    You're saying that "Pushing around a big car to travel what is essentially walking distance is a waste" Order these in desirability: 1) Not travelling 2) Travelling by car for 2 miles 3) Travelling by car for 20 miles 4) Travelling by car for 200 miles I've already done it. In no world is it better to own a car and travel 200 miles than it is to own the same car and travel 20 miles. In all worlds it's better to not travel at all. You are saying that "you shouldn't drive 3 miles". Unless you are also saying "you shouldn't drive 30 miles" and "you shouldn't drive 300 miles" you're being a hipocritte. The reason I'm such a fan of taxes on externalities is to stop micromanagers saying "you shouldn't do that specific journey in that specific way", and instead give financial incentivies to do the right thing. If the lifecycle of a car that lasts say 150,000 miles costs $5k in externalities up front and $15k in externalities, then charge those externalities -- $5k on the purchase price, then 10c per mile. Even in a situation where the first 2 miles costs more per mile (because in an ICE the engine needs to warm up), then charge 20c for the first 2 miles and 10c after that. Someone doing 2 miles will pay 40c, someone doing 20 miles will pay $2.20.
    - ogre_codes 6y ago
      I can understand why you would need to drive 3 miles instead of ride a bike. Your first reply covered that quite well. The rest of this gibberish. I have no idea how you see this as a reasonable interpretation to either of my posts. My point was that if it’s feasible to walk or ride a bike someone instead of drive, you should. I didn’t make it well, but I also didn’t suggest you are better driving 10 times further either. You’ve gone from making a reasonable point to being damned near incoherent.

iso1631 6y ago

In my case, it's not every day, it's narrow country lanes, it rains, it involves transporting kids and equipment. You seem to be claiming it's better to travel 50 miles a day by car than 10 miles a day, which is clearly wrong.

ogre_codes 6y ago
> You seem to be claiming it's better to travel 50 miles a day by car than 10 miles a day, which is clearly wrong. I don’t understand at all how you interpret what I said to mean this.
- iso1631 6y ago
  You're saying that "Pushing around a big car to travel what is essentially walking distance is a waste" Order these in desirability: 1) Not travelling 2) Travelling by car for 2 miles 3) Travelling by car for 20 miles 4) Travelling by car for 200 miles I've already done it. In no world is it better to own a car and travel 200 miles than it is to own the same car and travel 20 miles. In all worlds it's better to not travel at all. You are saying that "you shouldn't drive 3 miles". Unless you are also saying "you shouldn't drive 30 miles" and "you shouldn't drive 300 miles" you're being a hipocritte. The reason I'm such a fan of taxes on externalities is to stop micromanagers saying "you shouldn't do that specific journey in that specific way", and instead give financial incentivies to do the right thing. If the lifecycle of a car that lasts say 150,000 miles costs $5k in externalities up front and $15k in externalities, then charge those externalities -- $5k on the purchase price, then 10c per mile. Even in a situation where the first 2 miles costs more per mile (because in an ICE the engine needs to warm up), then charge 20c for the first 2 miles and 10c after that. Someone doing 2 miles will pay 40c, someone doing 20 miles will pay $2.20.
  - ogre_codes 6y ago
    I can understand why you would need to drive 3 miles instead of ride a bike. Your first reply covered that quite well. The rest of this gibberish. I have no idea how you see this as a reasonable interpretation to either of my posts. My point was that if it’s feasible to walk or ride a bike someone instead of drive, you should. I didn’t make it well, but I also didn’t suggest you are better driving 10 times further either. You’ve gone from making a reasonable point to being damned near incoherent.