>Yeah, because it doesn’t exist. I probably remembered it wrong and conflated the Rosenbaum with being about Woz and Jobs. >That was not why Woz (and Jobs) we

>Yeah, because it doesn’t exist. I probably remembered it wrong and conflated the Rosenbaum with being about Woz and Jobs. >That was not why Woz (and Jobs) were interested in them, which is my point. Woz and Jobs decided to learn about blue boxes because they read "Secrets of the Little Blue Box" [0], an article which covers people selling blue boxes to mafia bookies [1]. My understanding is that Woz thought that Blue Boxes were neat and that Jobs wanted to turn it into a business so they began mass producing them. They were looking for a market, they knew based on the article that got them excited about Blue Boxes in the first that Blue Boxes can be used to evade wiretaps and that also based on that article they knew organized crime was willing to pay for them. At the very least they must have talked about it as some point, perhaps just to say we are never selling these to the mob". If you ever get a chance to ask Woz about this, I'd love to hear his answer, who did they try to sell blue boxes to and if they didn't try to sell blue boxes to bookies what was their thinking at the time about why not? "And with Wozniak, of course, the story goes that he discovered the blue box via reading Ron Rosenbaum’s article, Secrets of the Little Blue Box" [0] "We [not Woz or Jobs] had this order for a thousand beeper boxes from a syndicate front man in Las Vegas. They use them to place bets coast to coast, keep lines open for hours, all of which can get expensive if you have to pay. The deal was a thousand blue boxes for $300 apiece. Before then we retailed them for $1,500 apiece" - [1] [0] Concerning Steve Wozniak’s Blue Boxes, https://512pixels.net/2018/03/woz-blue-box/ https://512pixels.net/2018/03/woz-blue-box/ [1] Secrets of the Little Blue Box by Ron Rosenbaum, http://www.lospadres.info/thorg/lbb.html http://www.lospadres.info/thorg/lbb.html