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https://glowforge.com/our-products https://glowforge.com/our-products https://flux3dp.com/beamo/ https://flux3dp.com/beamo/ Glowforge Pro - $5,995 Glowforge

by atian 6y ago

https://glowforge.com/our-products https://glowforge.com/our-products https://flux3dp.com/beamo/ https://flux3dp.com/beamo/ Glowforge Pro - $5,995 Glowforge Basic - $2,995 Beamo Desktop (30W) - $2,000 All-in-one laser cutter on your desk. Otherwise modifying a 3D printer (e.g. Ender 3/5) with CNC/Laser attachments work as well if your budget is much lower. :)

duckfang 6y ago
Please note that Glowforge ALSO requires the obnoxious cloud to actually cut. And being forced to rely on "cloud" is how Cricut is able to bait-n-switch users and effectively demand more money for purchased hardware. There is absolutely 0 reason why a CNC laser cutter needs commodity internet at all. And I'd argue that an internet controlled fire-causing laser is a Bad Idea. Because Glowforge requires their server farms online, Glowforge could pull a Cricut at any moment's notice.
- WrtCdEvrydy 6y ago
  Beamo is local only through USB, I may or may not have been tempted to buy it just for that.
cproctor 6y ago
Glowforge is cloud-based too though, and doesn't accept gcode (ddingus's criterion from another comment on this post [1]). What evidence is there that Glowforge isn't just at an earlier phase of the same pattern? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26479791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26479791
- ddingus 6y ago
  Exactly. There is no evidence. Anytime there is lock in on machines, there will eventually be rent seeking. I have zero trust on this.
- ddlsmurf 6y ago
  One evidence is that glowforge open sourced their stuff, not saying it would be easy, but it does make it possible to avoid their cloud thing https://github.com/Glowforge https://github.com/Glowforge .
  - ddingus 6y ago
    If the cutting op protocol is exposed, that is really good. We can make a library. Nice to know.
    - makomk 6y ago
      That all looks like the bare minimum they're legally required to open source due to using GPLed code (the Linux kernel, uboot, etc).
      - ddingus 6y ago
        Well crap. I need to edit while I can.
jnwatson 6y ago
Those are not even close. A Cricut starts at $200.
- ddingus 6y ago
  The rental begins at $200, right?
  - jazzyjackson 6y ago
    Cricut is a small CNC exacto knife, they cost ~$200
jazzyjackson 6y ago
People use Cricut/CAMEO to cut vinyl stickers for the most part. Can't cut vinyl with lasers, you get chloride.

by atian 6y ago

duckfang 6y ago

Please note that Glowforge ALSO requires the obnoxious cloud to actually cut. And being forced to rely on "cloud" is how Cricut is able to bait-n-switch users and effectively demand more money for purchased hardware. There is absolutely 0 reason why a CNC laser cutter needs commodity internet at all. And I'd argue that an internet controlled fire-causing laser is a Bad Idea. Because Glowforge requires their server farms online, Glowforge could pull a Cricut at any moment's notice.

WrtCdEvrydy 6y ago
Beamo is local only through USB, I may or may not have been tempted to buy it just for that.

cproctor 6y ago

Glowforge is cloud-based too though, and doesn't accept gcode (ddingus's criterion from another comment on this post [1]). What evidence is there that Glowforge isn't just at an earlier phase of the same pattern? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26479791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26479791

ddingus 6y ago
Exactly. There is no evidence. Anytime there is lock in on machines, there will eventually be rent seeking. I have zero trust on this.
ddlsmurf 6y ago
One evidence is that glowforge open sourced their stuff, not saying it would be easy, but it does make it possible to avoid their cloud thing https://github.com/Glowforge https://github.com/Glowforge .
- ddingus 6y ago
  If the cutting op protocol is exposed, that is really good. We can make a library. Nice to know.
  - makomk 6y ago
    That all looks like the bare minimum they're legally required to open source due to using GPLed code (the Linux kernel, uboot, etc).
    - ddingus 6y ago
      Well crap. I need to edit while I can.

jnwatson 6y ago

Those are not even close. A Cricut starts at $200.

ddingus 6y ago
The rental begins at $200, right?
- jazzyjackson 6y ago
  Cricut is a small CNC exacto knife, they cost ~$200

jazzyjackson 6y ago

People use Cricut/CAMEO to cut vinyl stickers for the most part. Can't cut vinyl with lasers, you get chloride.