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At first, I wanted to read the article. But having to wait more than one minute to submit my cookie preferences, I closed the tab and left. If anyone at Docker

At first, I wanted to read the article. But having to wait more than one minute to submit my cookie preferences, I closed the tab and left. If anyone at Docker is reading this: Please reconsider your cookie banner implementation.

dean177 6y ago
Trust arc is incredibly obnoxious
- raverbashing 6y ago
  Especially as a corporate site (that is, not a click-farm that relies on tracking ads) this is unacceptable "Trust arc" I'd trust the site more if it had a sensible cookie policy
- birktj 6y ago
  Is this kind of artificial delay even legal under the GDRP? Does anyone know if there has been any lawsuits against trust arc and co over this stuff? After waiting forever I was greeted with: "Some opt-outs failed. Opt-out requests responded with error or timeout. Please try again". How is this okay?
  - Nextgrid 6y ago
    It isn’t (GDPR regulates how consent can be obtained and shenanigans like these are an obvious example of bad faith) but the entities supposed to enforce the GDPR are absolutely incompetent and don’t care.
TLightful 6y ago
That's some decent patience you've got there. I give websites 5 seconds, tops.
kawsper 6y ago
They are aware of it, I've contacted them multiple times about it, they just don't care.
TameAntelope 6y ago
And here I wasn't asked at all about my preferences! I wonder why our experience was so different.
- rsstack 6y ago
  My guess: you aren't in the EU and the top commenter is.
- bdcp 6y ago
  I've checked, mine was blocked by adblocker
random5634 6y ago
These cookie banners are so annoying - govt messes this type of stuff over and over. Let me control cookies on my end, I can choose not to accept cookies using my own browser controls, or delete them after 1 hour etc.
- neon_electro 6y ago
  "govt" didn't develop the specific cookie banner implementation Docker is using.
  - nvr219 6y ago
    yeah this is Docker's legal team.
  - enumjorge 6y ago
    Yeah the government is far from perfect, but people also treat it as a punching bag. It was companies who used the lack of regulation in tech to abuse cookies, and our government responded with regulation. And now some sites are implementing those rules in very annoying ways. Instead of getting mad at the party who is trying to protect you in this situation, how about directing that anger at the parties who caused the problem in the first place?
    - twox2 6y ago
      I disagree. It's the over-regulation that calls for these pain in the ass implementations.
      - twox2 6y ago
        Downvote all you want, but you're in denial. GDPR and the like are nothing more than "privacy theater". I work in this industry and know it very well. Cookie opt outs or forced opt-ins on publisher pages aren't helping anyone with anything. The whole thing is just a farce so that they can enforce this against bigger tech companies when they want to. They should just tax them outright and save us all the trouble.
aquir 6y ago
NoScript + uBlock Origin to the rescue!
brtkdotse 6y ago
It's perfectly readable even if you don't click on anything? And it doesn't set any cookies until you agree.
jeofken 6y ago
To muggles it can be explained line this: computers send letters to each other. Getting a webpage is sending a letter that says “can I please GET the document you call /mypage?”, where the other part replies “OK (200), by the way, next time you write, please include this token “<cookie>“, here is your document”. When I send the next letter, I (or my user agent) can chose to send along the cookie, or not. The server does not force me. This is why the EU cookie law regulating HTTP messages makes no sense.
- matsemann 6y ago
  Meh, the onus is on the web pages not tracking all kind of shit. Don't blame the law for exposing it. Also, gdpr consent isn't that particular about implementation. Cookies aren't something special that needs consent. It's their usage.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
ivanche 6y ago
In situations like these I can only say a massive thank you to uMatrix + uBlock Origin author!
ignoramous 6y ago
For this reason, I find myself often often using archive.is to browse text-only websites, including twitter links. https://archive.is/iGdbt https://archive.is/iGdbt
lorenzfx 6y ago
I use an addon for Firefox which gets rid of all cookie banners [0]. No issues on docker.com either. [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-about-cookies/ https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-abou...
LeonM 6y ago
Docker (or anyone for that matter) should not use TrustARC. TrustARC is the most evil, dark pattern I have ever encountered. Opting out takes >10 clicks and then it displays a fake progress scanner for over 30 seconds to punish you for opting out (pro tip! just accepting all is instant!). GDPR is good, having a choice not to be tracked is good. But the pathetic way that websites try to fool you into handing over your data should be punished hard by the EU.
dang 6y ago
Of course it's annoying, but posts like this end up becoming annoying too, and even damaging, when they gather upvotes and mass at the top of a thread, choking out the on-topic discussion. That's why we have this rule: "Please don't complain about website formatting, back-button breakage, and similar annoyances. They're too common to be interesting. Exception: when the author is present. Then friendly feedback might be helpful." The upvotes are really more the problem than the comment, but please don't post such comments and then such upvotes will have no surface to stick to. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dean177 6y ago

Trust arc is incredibly obnoxious

raverbashing 6y ago
Especially as a corporate site (that is, not a click-farm that relies on tracking ads) this is unacceptable "Trust arc" I'd trust the site more if it had a sensible cookie policy
birktj 6y ago
Is this kind of artificial delay even legal under the GDRP? Does anyone know if there has been any lawsuits against trust arc and co over this stuff? After waiting forever I was greeted with: "Some opt-outs failed. Opt-out requests responded with error or timeout. Please try again". How is this okay?
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  It isn’t (GDPR regulates how consent can be obtained and shenanigans like these are an obvious example of bad faith) but the entities supposed to enforce the GDPR are absolutely incompetent and don’t care.

TLightful 6y ago

That's some decent patience you've got there. I give websites 5 seconds, tops.

kawsper 6y ago

They are aware of it, I've contacted them multiple times about it, they just don't care.

TameAntelope 6y ago

And here I wasn't asked at all about my preferences! I wonder why our experience was so different.

rsstack 6y ago
My guess: you aren't in the EU and the top commenter is.
bdcp 6y ago
I've checked, mine was blocked by adblocker

random5634 6y ago

These cookie banners are so annoying - govt messes this type of stuff over and over. Let me control cookies on my end, I can choose not to accept cookies using my own browser controls, or delete them after 1 hour etc.

neon_electro 6y ago
"govt" didn't develop the specific cookie banner implementation Docker is using.
- nvr219 6y ago
  yeah this is Docker's legal team.
- enumjorge 6y ago
  Yeah the government is far from perfect, but people also treat it as a punching bag. It was companies who used the lack of regulation in tech to abuse cookies, and our government responded with regulation. And now some sites are implementing those rules in very annoying ways. Instead of getting mad at the party who is trying to protect you in this situation, how about directing that anger at the parties who caused the problem in the first place?
  - twox2 6y ago
    I disagree. It's the over-regulation that calls for these pain in the ass implementations.
    - twox2 6y ago
      Downvote all you want, but you're in denial. GDPR and the like are nothing more than "privacy theater". I work in this industry and know it very well. Cookie opt outs or forced opt-ins on publisher pages aren't helping anyone with anything. The whole thing is just a farce so that they can enforce this against bigger tech companies when they want to. They should just tax them outright and save us all the trouble.

aquir 6y ago

NoScript + uBlock Origin to the rescue!

brtkdotse 6y ago

It's perfectly readable even if you don't click on anything? And it doesn't set any cookies until you agree.

jeofken 6y ago

To muggles it can be explained line this: computers send letters to each other. Getting a webpage is sending a letter that says “can I please GET the document you call /mypage?”, where the other part replies “OK (200), by the way, next time you write, please include this token “<cookie>“, here is your document”. When I send the next letter, I (or my user agent) can chose to send along the cookie, or not. The server does not force me. This is why the EU cookie law regulating HTTP messages makes no sense.

matsemann 6y ago
Meh, the onus is on the web pages not tracking all kind of shit. Don't blame the law for exposing it. Also, gdpr consent isn't that particular about implementation. Cookies aren't something special that needs consent. It's their usage.
deleted 6y ago
[deleted]

ivanche 6y ago

In situations like these I can only say a massive thank you to uMatrix + uBlock Origin author!

ignoramous 6y ago

For this reason, I find myself often often using archive.is to browse text-only websites, including twitter links. https://archive.is/iGdbt https://archive.is/iGdbt

lorenzfx 6y ago

I use an addon for Firefox which gets rid of all cookie banners [0]. No issues on docker.com either. [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-about-cookies/ https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-abou...

LeonM 6y ago

Docker (or anyone for that matter) should not use TrustARC. TrustARC is the most evil, dark pattern I have ever encountered. Opting out takes >10 clicks and then it displays a fake progress scanner for over 30 seconds to punish you for opting out (pro tip! just accepting all is instant!). GDPR is good, having a choice not to be tracked is good. But the pathetic way that websites try to fool you into handing over your data should be punished hard by the EU.

dang 6y ago

Of course it's annoying, but posts like this end up becoming annoying too, and even damaging, when they gather upvotes and mass at the top of a thread, choking out the on-topic discussion. That's why we have this rule: "Please don't complain about website formatting, back-button breakage, and similar annoyances. They're too common to be interesting. Exception: when the author is present. Then friendly feedback might be helpful." The upvotes are really more the problem than the comment, but please don't post such comments and then such upvotes will have no surface to stick to. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html