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Shipping 1080p panels in a high end laptop was a non-starter in 2016.

by bgorman 6y ago

neogodless 6y ago
I prefer them. Either my opinion is wrong, or your blanket statement is wrong.
- apahwa 6y ago
  why do you prefer 1080?
  - stagger87 6y ago
    Longer battery life and no app scaling issues (on the apps I use)
  - precurse 6y ago
    I prefer it since 1080p takes less resources to drive, therefore gets better battery life. On a 14" display, I think 1080p looks more than fine. If I want a hidpi display, I'll just dock to an external display.
  - neogodless 6y ago
    My eyesight is not great. The higher resolution screen is wasted on me, and wastes computing / energy resources to drive it. I enjoy gaming on my laptop, and prefer native resolution gaming. I require a high refresh rate due to post-concussion syndrome. So sure, if that can be the case with a higher resolution that's fine, but that isn't the norm yet. (2021 seems to be the year for QHD 165Hz though!) I'm in no way saying QHD or 4K isn't ideal for anyone. It's just silly to say that "this option I don't want is a non-starter" as if it applies to everyone.
    - mrec 6y ago
      Same here. I (old fogey) use a 1080p 24" monitor with my desktop, and don't feel any particular need for more.
- kensai 6y ago
  Sometimes I wish there was the possibility to see the exact number of upvotes or downvotes a response got here in HN in order to settle the numbers of such opinions (pro and contra).
  - gostsamo 6y ago
    There are hn polls.
- unethical_ban 6y ago
  I'll play this game. Reasons to like lower resolution screens: * Concerns about power * Concerns about HiDPI issues / fractional scaling, esp. with Linux * Likes seeing pixels * Price
bluedino 6y ago
Not such a big deal because highdpi is finnicky in Linux in 2021 (as long as it is a high-quality panel). Lenovo has shipped some atrocious 1080 panels in the past.
- opan 6y ago
  Works well on Wayland from what I've heard.
  - vetinari 6y ago
    Works great, if you happen to have resolution that is usable with integer scaling. If you need fractional scaling, only native Wayland applications work well. X11 applications are going to be upscaled and look blurry. Today, Chrome, all Electron apps, Jetbrains tools still do not support Wayland, though at least for Chrome/Electron the support is on the way.
sagolikasoppor 6y ago
Totally disagree, you won't see much of a difference in such a small screen anyway and the battery life is way better. I have a 4k monitor on my laptop but I regret that choice.
ObscureScience 6y ago
I would have love something like 2160 × 1440 (3:2 aspect ratio), but then they'd likely not have included a numpad.
dgellow 6y ago
I completely agree. I will never go back to 1080p and a 16/9 ratio. 3/2 is the best ratio ever when writing code (after 4/3, but that’s definitely dead).
hu3 6y ago
For me and my tired eyes, no laptop screen comes close to the real deal which is a large ultrawide monitor. So it might as well come with 1080p which has better battery life and no application scaling issues on Linux.
jerf 6y ago
I don't mind the resolution per se but am a bit concerned about what sort of panel it is. There are some bad cheap panels out there.

Shipping 1080p panels in a high end laptop was a non-starter in 2016.

neogodless 6y ago

I prefer them. Either my opinion is wrong, or your blanket statement is wrong.

apahwa 6y ago
why do you prefer 1080?
- stagger87 6y ago
  Longer battery life and no app scaling issues (on the apps I use)
- precurse 6y ago
  I prefer it since 1080p takes less resources to drive, therefore gets better battery life. On a 14" display, I think 1080p looks more than fine. If I want a hidpi display, I'll just dock to an external display.
- neogodless 6y ago
  My eyesight is not great. The higher resolution screen is wasted on me, and wastes computing / energy resources to drive it. I enjoy gaming on my laptop, and prefer native resolution gaming. I require a high refresh rate due to post-concussion syndrome. So sure, if that can be the case with a higher resolution that's fine, but that isn't the norm yet. (2021 seems to be the year for QHD 165Hz though!) I'm in no way saying QHD or 4K isn't ideal for anyone. It's just silly to say that "this option I don't want is a non-starter" as if it applies to everyone.
  - mrec 6y ago
    Same here. I (old fogey) use a 1080p 24" monitor with my desktop, and don't feel any particular need for more.
kensai 6y ago
Sometimes I wish there was the possibility to see the exact number of upvotes or downvotes a response got here in HN in order to settle the numbers of such opinions (pro and contra).
- gostsamo 6y ago
  There are hn polls.
unethical_ban 6y ago
I'll play this game. Reasons to like lower resolution screens: * Concerns about power * Concerns about HiDPI issues / fractional scaling, esp. with Linux * Likes seeing pixels * Price

bluedino 6y ago

Not such a big deal because highdpi is finnicky in Linux in 2021 (as long as it is a high-quality panel). Lenovo has shipped some atrocious 1080 panels in the past.

opan 6y ago
Works well on Wayland from what I've heard.
- vetinari 6y ago
  Works great, if you happen to have resolution that is usable with integer scaling. If you need fractional scaling, only native Wayland applications work well. X11 applications are going to be upscaled and look blurry. Today, Chrome, all Electron apps, Jetbrains tools still do not support Wayland, though at least for Chrome/Electron the support is on the way.

sagolikasoppor 6y ago

Totally disagree, you won't see much of a difference in such a small screen anyway and the battery life is way better. I have a 4k monitor on my laptop but I regret that choice.

ObscureScience 6y ago

I would have love something like 2160 × 1440 (3:2 aspect ratio), but then they'd likely not have included a numpad.

dgellow 6y ago

I completely agree. I will never go back to 1080p and a 16/9 ratio. 3/2 is the best ratio ever when writing code (after 4/3, but that’s definitely dead).

hu3 6y ago

For me and my tired eyes, no laptop screen comes close to the real deal which is a large ultrawide monitor. So it might as well come with 1080p which has better battery life and no application scaling issues on Linux.

jerf 6y ago

I don't mind the resolution per se but am a bit concerned about what sort of panel it is. There are some bad cheap panels out there.