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"Your Right to Form a Union "Not represented by a union, but want to be? If a majority of workers wants to form a union, they can select a union in one of two
by andyjohnson0 6y ago
"Your Right to Form a Union
"Not represented by a union, but want to be? If a majority of workers wants to form a union, they can select a union in one of two ways: If at least 30% of workers sign cards or a petition saying they want a union, the NLRB will conduct an election. If a majority of those who vote choose the union, the NLRB will certify the union as your representative for collective bargaining. An election is not the only way a union can become your representative. Your employer may voluntarily recognize a union based on evidence - typically signed union-authorization cards - that a majority of employees want it to represent them. Once a union has been certified or recognized, the employer is required to bargain over your terms and conditions of employment with your union representative. Special rules apply in the construction industry."
https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/whats-law https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/whats-law
That's in the US obviously.
- jdasdf 6y ago> Once a union has been certified or recognized, the employer is required to bargain over your terms and conditions of employment with your union representative. Oh. So once again bad laws cause the whole problem...
- cratermoon 6y agoThose same "bad laws" are why you have a 5-day work week, your retirement plan, overtime (if you are hourly), safe working conditions, sick leave. The list goes on. If you think you'd like to go back before the time when unions didn't exist, let me direct you to the work of photographer Lewis Hine
- nickpp 6y agoWe have those thanks to the increase of productivity and competition between employees, not some unions hundreds of years ago. Maybe that was the reason initially but time has passed and today's situation favours the employee in most fields.
- cratermoon 6y ago> competition between employees Ah yes, the invocation of the Free Market Fairy https://bitworking.org/news/2008/01/the-free-market-fairy/ https://bitworking.org/news/2008/01/the-free-market-fairy/
- AlexandrB 6y ago> Maybe that was the reason initially but time has passed and today's situation favours the employee in most fields. Most fields except: retail, food service, food delivery, warehouse work, customer service/support, auto repair, etc. Basically, half the people in the US if not more.
- nickpp 6y agoMost fields where the added value is equivalent to that of a (basically) robot and where the labor pool is more than "any able body" and thus the supply side is ridiculously unlimited. Society rewards contribution it finds valuable. The amount of that reward is an extremely valuable signal for people to find ways to increase the quality or quantity of their contribution.
- EliRivers 6y agotoday's situation favours the employee in most fields I guess employees are choosing to let rich people take all the wealth they generate, then. How very generous of employees. I guess what I'm basically saying is that the evidence indicates that what you just said is bullshit.
- nickpp 6y agoI guess am not aware of any evidence of "rich people take all the wealth". I know there are organisational structures in which all kinds of people cooperate to create wealth which is then distributed along to clearly agreed and understood rules to funders, investors and workers. They are called companies and all participants are adult, informed and consenting.
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- Rule35 6y agoUnions have done their job. They were needed when Pinkertons beat up people trying to open new stores in a company town, etc. Ironically, flagging a post without bad content is just the sort of passive aggressive crap you have to put up with in a union.
- basilgohar 6y agoLaws have done their job. They were needed when people were hunter-gatherers and needed to settle in cities and learn how to live peacefully now, etc.
- pietrovismara 6y ago> They were needed when Pinkertons beat up people trying to open new stores in a company town, etc. BTW, Amazon is still using Pinkertons to repress unionization attempts[0]. Things haven't changed that much after all. - [0]: https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-pinkerton-agency-spies-union-strike-spain-ccoo-legal-action-2020-12?IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-pinkerton-agency-spie...
- Rule35 6y agoSo? They used to break your legs. Now they just write stuff in a little booklet. Things have changed a lot.
- pietrovismara 6y agoThe struggle is still the same. Things have just gotten more politically correct, because now every employee could record your Pinkertons beating up people and share it with the whole world. Don't think things have changed for any other reason that we forced them to do that.
- Rule35 6y ago> Don't think things have changed for any other reason that we forced them to do that. We did not. Unless you are seventy. The changing laws of our country that make unions less useful have also gotten rid of private armies. > The struggle is still the same. Wow, no. Not at all. Not having people willing or able to hurt you kinda makes all the difference.