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This is an interesting take I haven't heard much before. Could you expand on what the alternatives are?

by dpatterbee 6y ago

dontblink 6y ago
Mostly merchandising and touring.
- falcolas 6y ago
  How does an author do this? An artist? How much money can the 20th musician in a day doing a tour expect to really make? An orchestra? How about movies? They'd cease to exist (barring a few youtube-quality productions).
breck 6y ago
It's an exciting time for alternatives. Patreon, Twitch, Cameo, OnlyFans, et al, are providing ways to connect with your community and earn a living through their support, which is not only very important during shutdowns when live events are harder, but will be a long term trend. On the production side costs continue to drop, and if we #abolishcopyright cost of living across the world will drop dramatically, so will be easier to balance the budget.
- toyg 6y ago
  > if we #abolishcopyright cost of living across the world will drop dramatically I sincerely doubt that. Food and shelter won't magically cost less because there is no copyright.
jedimastert 6y ago
Other than performance and merchandise, I think Patreon is really the big ticket right now. I suppose, in reality, this has been the case for around 3 decades now. Unless you have the marketing department, you don't make money from music sales.
- falcolas 6y ago
  Patreon works because everybody's not on there. If I tried to give $1 to every artist that I listen to on Spotify, I'd be paying out hundreds of dollars a month. Throw in books, videos, movies, and TV shows (all of which rely upon copyright), I'd be paying out thousands of dollars. I could scale back my contribution to each artist to pennies each (which doesn't actually work, given the $0.30 cent/3% CC cut), but then we're back to where we are today. Patreon (and their ilk) is not tenable at scale.

4 ms·

This is an interesting take I haven't heard much before. Could you expand on what the alternatives are?

by dpatterbee 6y ago

This is an interesting take I haven't heard much before. Could you expand on what the alternatives are?

dontblink 6y ago
Mostly merchandising and touring.
- falcolas 6y ago
  How does an author do this? An artist? How much money can the 20th musician in a day doing a tour expect to really make? An orchestra? How about movies? They'd cease to exist (barring a few youtube-quality productions).
breck 6y ago
It's an exciting time for alternatives. Patreon, Twitch, Cameo, OnlyFans, et al, are providing ways to connect with your community and earn a living through their support, which is not only very important during shutdowns when live events are harder, but will be a long term trend. On the production side costs continue to drop, and if we #abolishcopyright cost of living across the world will drop dramatically, so will be easier to balance the budget.
- toyg 6y ago
  > if we #abolishcopyright cost of living across the world will drop dramatically I sincerely doubt that. Food and shelter won't magically cost less because there is no copyright.
jedimastert 6y ago
Other than performance and merchandise, I think Patreon is really the big ticket right now. I suppose, in reality, this has been the case for around 3 decades now. Unless you have the marketing department, you don't make money from music sales.
- falcolas 6y ago
  Patreon works because everybody's not on there. If I tried to give $1 to every artist that I listen to on Spotify, I'd be paying out hundreds of dollars a month. Throw in books, videos, movies, and TV shows (all of which rely upon copyright), I'd be paying out thousands of dollars. I could scale back my contribution to each artist to pennies each (which doesn't actually work, given the $0.30 cent/3% CC cut), but then we're back to where we are today. Patreon (and their ilk) is not tenable at scale.