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So guy walks out into the forest to build an off grid cabin, just like his grandfathers used to and films it to the slightest detail, keeping placing the camera

by atleta 6y ago

So guy walks out into the forest to build an off grid cabin, just like his grandfathers used to and films it to the slightest detail, keeping placing the camera around for nice shots (like the one where chips fly right towards the lens). I don't know... sounds more like "hey, I thought I'd make a hit video that would attract a lot of on grid feedback, unlike my grandpa', who probably wouldn't give a fuck about what the world thinks about his cabin". Now don't get me wrong, it is OK to create a video on anything, including on how to build a cabin or your experience on building a cabin (which is different) or your experience on living alone for a year (I guess this is not what he did), but this just doesn't add up to me.

lacker 6y ago
"How I successfully went off the grid, and got to 300,000 YouTube subscribers!"
saalweachter 6y ago
> ...unlike my grandpa, who probably wouldn't give a fuck about what the world thinks about his cabin... I'm pretty sure 98% of people throughout history who have built a cabin -- or any other sort of home for themselves -- were inordinately proud of it, and the extent to which they showed it off was limited primarily by how many people they could force to come see it.
- atleta 6y ago
  And I'm pretty sure most people hasn't tried to force too many people. It's one thing to tell your family, maybe your neighbour, especially when you know all of them did it it the past and another is going out of your way. But as I explicitly said the thing I found weird is not that he did share it but the effort he put into the presentation and how I think that doesn't fit with the goal or at least the message.
Cd00d 6y ago
Personally, I'm glad he documented his journey in this way. I'm glad to have shared in it, (mind the sarcasm) without crowding his solitude by watching him in person for a year. It's a real accomplishment. I thought part of the point of the internet was to share things we do. This doesn't read as "gross, wannabe influencer" material, but rather a journey of interest and passion, documented for himself and others.
- atleta 6y ago
  As I said, I have no problem sharing it. The controversy I see is between the message of "off grid, good old fashioned solitude in the forest" vs the "instagrammy, watch me how I do, big brotherish" (as in the TV show) attitude. Not the fact that he conveyed information of what it's like to build a cabine. In other words if you want to show and document the process of building such a thing, that's ok. But it's not that. If you want to document your 'journey' of solitude, that's OK too, but you can't do that in my opinion by constantly minding about how you look on camera. Because that kind of defeats any purpose I can think of for solitude. (I.e. am I really alone if I keep thinking about the society that I wanted to leave behind and continue acting as if I was still there and they were still all watching.) You can look at it as an art project. I.e. "this is how I imagine what it feels like to build a cabine in the woods on your own".

by atleta 6y ago

lacker 6y ago

"How I successfully went off the grid, and got to 300,000 YouTube subscribers!"

saalweachter 6y ago

> ...unlike my grandpa, who probably wouldn't give a fuck about what the world thinks about his cabin... I'm pretty sure 98% of people throughout history who have built a cabin -- or any other sort of home for themselves -- were inordinately proud of it, and the extent to which they showed it off was limited primarily by how many people they could force to come see it.

atleta 6y ago
And I'm pretty sure most people hasn't tried to force too many people. It's one thing to tell your family, maybe your neighbour, especially when you know all of them did it it the past and another is going out of your way. But as I explicitly said the thing I found weird is not that he did share it but the effort he put into the presentation and how I think that doesn't fit with the goal or at least the message.

Cd00d 6y ago

Personally, I'm glad he documented his journey in this way. I'm glad to have shared in it, (mind the sarcasm) without crowding his solitude by watching him in person for a year. It's a real accomplishment. I thought part of the point of the internet was to share things we do. This doesn't read as "gross, wannabe influencer" material, but rather a journey of interest and passion, documented for himself and others.

atleta 6y ago
As I said, I have no problem sharing it. The controversy I see is between the message of "off grid, good old fashioned solitude in the forest" vs the "instagrammy, watch me how I do, big brotherish" (as in the TV show) attitude. Not the fact that he conveyed information of what it's like to build a cabine. In other words if you want to show and document the process of building such a thing, that's ok. But it's not that. If you want to document your 'journey' of solitude, that's OK too, but you can't do that in my opinion by constantly minding about how you look on camera. Because that kind of defeats any purpose I can think of for solitude. (I.e. am I really alone if I keep thinking about the society that I wanted to leave behind and continue acting as if I was still there and they were still all watching.) You can look at it as an art project. I.e. "this is how I imagine what it feels like to build a cabine in the woods on your own".