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Buying an acre of forest in Northern Sweden is not expensive, less than $2k. Even close to Stockholm it's not much more than that, so it's really not a relevant
by Grustaf 6y ago
Buying an acre of forest in Northern Sweden is not expensive, less than $2k. Even close to Stockholm it's not much more than that, so it's really not a relevant concern if you are willing to spend a year building your own house.
As to building codes, they are very strict in zoned areas, possibly the strictest in the world, but it's much more relaxed in rural areas. Plus even in zoned areas you can always build a 30 m2 supplemental building. Plus a 15 m2 shed.
> considered too boring
Would you really find it interesting to watch the process of him signing the contract to acquire the land? I can't think of anything less exciting than that.
- ike77 6y agoI'm pretty sure you'd find an audience, even for an accounting competition reality show. Too bad Netflix hasn't yet produced one
- Grustaf 6y agoCould be. But it’s probably not the same audience as the wilderness/survival/woodworking audience!
- AdamJacobMuller 6y agoGiven an identical set of financial information, who can produce a 1040 with the lowest tax liability/highest refund!
- saalweachter 6y agoIt doesn't quite go into "watching someone sign the paperwork" levels of detail, but money/permitting problems are frequently at least 5 minutes of each "Grand Designs" episode. My favorite was where someone built a house in the middle of a block, in previously unused land between the houses, and had to get permission from 17 separate future neighbors to tear down and rebuild the back walls of their gardens while digging the foundations of their house.
- Cullinet 6y agoI have no idea how true this is, but my friend who claimed to have verified his research most thoroughly and was hell bent on attempting this against everyone's advice for he wasn't the outdoors man by any means, asserted the entirely legal possibility of building a cabin north of the arctic circle in Sweden and providing you could self sustain yourself out there for five consecutive winters the law would fairly automatically give you citizenship. I thought to put this here just because it's such a romantic notion regardless and I'd love it to be true, but I fear my dear friend was never less than a true romantic soul himself and it may have been a genius line with the ladies fed up with London living...
- Grustaf 6y agoCitizenship after 5 years is far from automatic, and living north of the Arctic circle doesn't help your case I'm afraid... But on the other hand, if you sustain yourself chances are you can live your whole life there without anyone noticing.
- jfk13 6y agoAlthough depending how good you really are at the "sustain yourself" bit, you might find that "your whole life" isn't all that long.
- m12k 6y agoReminds me of Pratchett: “Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.”
- jacquesm 6y agoI've been there. There definitely would be people noticing unless you went far away from the roads. There aren't a whole lot of people living there but they're there and they are quite aware of what is going on.
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- mclightning 6y agoWhere do you find those? When I filter max limit as 200k sek (20k eur) on Hemnet, I get only 1 in all of Sweden.
- CerebralCerb 6y agohttps://www.hemnet.se/bostad/tomt-robertsfors-robertsfors-kommun-granskar-101-9136997 https://www.hemnet.se/bostad/tomt-robertsfors-robertsfors-ko... Free as long as you live there afterwards. https://www.hemnet.se/bostad/tomt-norra-rorum-hoors-kommun-sallanders-vag-16-17011295 https://www.hemnet.se/bostad/tomt-norra-rorum-hoors-kommun-s... 10k SEK, close enough to cities to commute.
- mclightning 6y agoAha, you mean as "tomt". I was looking for "Gårdar/skogar", to have some forest within the lot.
- 42_ 6y agoIf I wasn't stuck in an Asian country, I would pay decent money to live there :(
- xmm 6y agoNeither is close to 1 ha though.
- chupasaurus 6y agoGP was using an acre as a measurement, the 2nd link is in the 200K SEK/acre range, and there are [0] plenty of offers he described. [0] https://www.hemnet.se/bostader?by=land_area&housing_form_groups%5B%5D=plots&order=desc&preferred_sorting=true&price_max=200000 https://www.hemnet.se/bostader?by=land_area&housing_form_gro...
- dosshell 6y agoYou call the owner of the forest. Many owners I know think it is fun that a younger population wants to be in the forest and wouldn't hesitate to sell off a bit for that purpose.
- progre 6y agoI believe that it's quite difficult to buy such small parcels of forest in Sweden without already owning adjacent lots if the land is "zoned" for forestry. You can "sneak" into this by buying derelict farms where the forest is included, but expect to pay more.