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In this case it's way cheaper to put those panels on your house. No weight or vibration requirements, can use the electricity for your house too. The only dow

In this case it's way cheaper to put those panels on your house. No weight or vibration requirements, can use the electricity for your house too. The only downside is you need to plug in.

nickez 6y ago
What if you live in an apartment and only use your car for weekend activities?
- SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
  > What if you live in an apartment and only use your car for weekend activities? Then you probably live in a city and would be better served by transport modes where you don't need a big upfront cost, and other expenses and hassle of owning your own vehicle. I mean bus, tram, metro rail, taxi, uber. You can always qualify with further "what if you..." to find someone who matches this case. But by the time you're done it won't be a viable number of customers.
  - throwaw2934238 6y ago
    People who live in big cities and ride crowded public transport every day to work, do not want to spend their free time on the weekend riding crowded public transport in the city. The cars are used to get away from crowds and from the city, to have some privacy and comfort and go out into nature.
    - nomel 6y ago
      If the intent was to be green, to minimize your carbon footprint, then you would buy an older, pre-owned, small displacement vehicle instead.
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rythie 6y ago
This assumes that you - own your house (30% rent in Europe [1]) - That you can charge at home (14% live in flats in UK for example [2]), many other properties don't have parking attached too and even for those with allocated parking, connecting a charger is prohibitively difficult (digging up roads / getting consent etc.) Governments will likely be slow to implement on street charging. There is a market for something like this, if it works as well as they say - which I doubt. [1] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Housing_statistics https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... [2] https://www.mortgagefinancegazette.com/market-news/housing/type-housing-people-live-11-08-2017/ https://www.mortgagefinancegazette.com/market-news/housing/t...
- mavhc 6y ago
  Why hasn't the owner of the house put solar panels up? They own a house, by definition they're into long term investing
  - rythie 6y ago
    The owner would be the landlord, there is no benefit to them installing solar panels unless it increases the rental value to pay for them, it likely doesn't. Solar panels don't add value to a house and may decrease it. [1] Also there limits solar panel installations in conservation areas in UK and your roof can face the wrong way, so they are not efficient particularly. [1] https://www.which.co.uk/news/2017/07/do-solar-panels-affect-the-value-of-your-home/ https://www.which.co.uk/news/2017/07/do-solar-panels-affect-...
    - mavhc 6y ago
      No money for generating solar power? I get 20p/kwh
      - rythie 6y ago
        Rates for new installations are much lower. Complicated to work it out, but seem to be around 4p/kwh. Also, the landlord would not benefit from any feed in tariff as the tenant pays the electric bill and would receive any feed in tariff benefit.

In this case it's way cheaper to put those panels on your house. No weight or vibration requirements, can use the electricity for your house too. The only downside is you need to plug in.

nickez 6y ago

What if you live in an apartment and only use your car for weekend activities?

SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
> What if you live in an apartment and only use your car for weekend activities? Then you probably live in a city and would be better served by transport modes where you don't need a big upfront cost, and other expenses and hassle of owning your own vehicle. I mean bus, tram, metro rail, taxi, uber. You can always qualify with further "what if you..." to find someone who matches this case. But by the time you're done it won't be a viable number of customers.
- throwaw2934238 6y ago
  People who live in big cities and ride crowded public transport every day to work, do not want to spend their free time on the weekend riding crowded public transport in the city. The cars are used to get away from crowds and from the city, to have some privacy and comfort and go out into nature.
  - nomel 6y ago
    If the intent was to be green, to minimize your carbon footprint, then you would buy an older, pre-owned, small displacement vehicle instead.
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rythie 6y ago

This assumes that you - own your house (30% rent in Europe [1]) - That you can charge at home (14% live in flats in UK for example [2]), many other properties don't have parking attached too and even for those with allocated parking, connecting a charger is prohibitively difficult (digging up roads / getting consent etc.) Governments will likely be slow to implement on street charging. There is a market for something like this, if it works as well as they say - which I doubt. [1] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Housing_statistics https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... [2] https://www.mortgagefinancegazette.com/market-news/housing/type-housing-people-live-11-08-2017/ https://www.mortgagefinancegazette.com/market-news/housing/t...

mavhc 6y ago
Why hasn't the owner of the house put solar panels up? They own a house, by definition they're into long term investing
- rythie 6y ago
  The owner would be the landlord, there is no benefit to them installing solar panels unless it increases the rental value to pay for them, it likely doesn't. Solar panels don't add value to a house and may decrease it. [1] Also there limits solar panel installations in conservation areas in UK and your roof can face the wrong way, so they are not efficient particularly. [1] https://www.which.co.uk/news/2017/07/do-solar-panels-affect-the-value-of-your-home/ https://www.which.co.uk/news/2017/07/do-solar-panels-affect-...
  - mavhc 6y ago
    No money for generating solar power? I get 20p/kwh
    - rythie 6y ago
      Rates for new installations are much lower. Complicated to work it out, but seem to be around 4p/kwh. Also, the landlord would not benefit from any feed in tariff as the tenant pays the electric bill and would receive any feed in tariff benefit.