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Neurotoxic? I would like to see a source for that claim. Psychedelics are certainly not to be underestimated but from what I have heard the actual physical har

Neurotoxic? I would like to see a source for that claim. Psychedelics are certainly not to be underestimated but from what I have heard the actual physical harm they can do is negligible compared to e.g. what alcohol does to your body. If you never drink because of that then maybe abstaining from mushrooms is appropriate. Otherwise I'd say it's taking some minuscule effect and blowing it out of proportion.

codebolt 6y ago
As someone who personally struggled with drug-induced psychosis for several years (and met many others with similar struggles), I kindly ask that you stop generalising from personal anecdote when giving advice about mental health and psychedelic drug use to others.
- saiya-jin 6y ago
  Your psychosis has most probably nothing to do with neurotoxicity of magic mushrooms, unless you took the 'other' mushrooms which are poisonous like Amanita muscaria. Also you didn't mention which substance(s) you drugged yourself to get there, how pure and strong they were (something legality helps greatly with). Overall, all pros and cons taken, there is no contest - legalization is the only correct thing to, especially given how past war on drugs panned out. Nobody advocates its the miracle cure, nobody says you should overdose on them 7x a week, or that you should even take them for that matter. Just like nobody advocates to drink themselves to death just because as an adult you can go and buy 10 liters of vodka or absinthe at once. There is no protection against stupidity, just a hope for cure in form of education and knowledge.
  - codebolt 6y ago
    You're correct that I didn't just drug myself with mushrooms, but they certainly didn't help. Marijuana was the main cause. And I likely would have stopped myself sooner if it wasn't for ignorant people telling me I couldn't and wouldn't get seriously ill from taking these substances.
    - sib301 6y ago
      This is a generalization of a personal anecdote, which is exactly what you asked the other user not to do.
      - codebolt 6y ago
        Am I saying it will happen to everyone? No, but I am saying it CAN happen. Of that I am living proof.
  - Chris2048 6y ago
    > given how past war on drugs panned out Legalising something doesn't make the cost disappear. You still have to police DUI, only now with more substance profiles to learn.
  - Chris2048 6y ago
    > There is no protection against stupidity, just a hope for cure in form of education and knowledge. You could say the same about the war on drugs.
_0qft 6y ago
A psychiatrist told me about neurotoxicity. I will trust a doctor 100 times before I trust anything online. > Otherwise I'd say it's taking some minuscule effect and blowing it out of proportion. I don't see how psylocybin would help people with a bit of depression or other problems. I don't want to take a drug just to have some fun. I need more than that. And no, I don't drink. Alcohol is a depressants, so I don't need that.

codebolt 6y ago

As someone who personally struggled with drug-induced psychosis for several years (and met many others with similar struggles), I kindly ask that you stop generalising from personal anecdote when giving advice about mental health and psychedelic drug use to others.

saiya-jin 6y ago
Your psychosis has most probably nothing to do with neurotoxicity of magic mushrooms, unless you took the 'other' mushrooms which are poisonous like Amanita muscaria. Also you didn't mention which substance(s) you drugged yourself to get there, how pure and strong they were (something legality helps greatly with). Overall, all pros and cons taken, there is no contest - legalization is the only correct thing to, especially given how past war on drugs panned out. Nobody advocates its the miracle cure, nobody says you should overdose on them 7x a week, or that you should even take them for that matter. Just like nobody advocates to drink themselves to death just because as an adult you can go and buy 10 liters of vodka or absinthe at once. There is no protection against stupidity, just a hope for cure in form of education and knowledge.
- codebolt 6y ago
  You're correct that I didn't just drug myself with mushrooms, but they certainly didn't help. Marijuana was the main cause. And I likely would have stopped myself sooner if it wasn't for ignorant people telling me I couldn't and wouldn't get seriously ill from taking these substances.
  - sib301 6y ago
    This is a generalization of a personal anecdote, which is exactly what you asked the other user not to do.
    - codebolt 6y ago
      Am I saying it will happen to everyone? No, but I am saying it CAN happen. Of that I am living proof.
- Chris2048 6y ago
  > given how past war on drugs panned out Legalising something doesn't make the cost disappear. You still have to police DUI, only now with more substance profiles to learn.
- Chris2048 6y ago
  > There is no protection against stupidity, just a hope for cure in form of education and knowledge. You could say the same about the war on drugs.

_0qft 6y ago

A psychiatrist told me about neurotoxicity. I will trust a doctor 100 times before I trust anything online. > Otherwise I'd say it's taking some minuscule effect and blowing it out of proportion. I don't see how psylocybin would help people with a bit of depression or other problems. I don't want to take a drug just to have some fun. I need more than that. And no, I don't drink. Alcohol is a depressants, so I don't need that.