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Developing with docker is not necessary a micro service, it's just a way of packaging, distributing and deploying your application in a clean way. And docker is

Developing with docker is not necessary a micro service, it's just a way of packaging, distributing and deploying your application in a clean way. And docker is not a virtual machine, there's not much overhead, you don't need kubernetes if it's just a simple app, but you can just take advantage of managed service like ECS, you get auto scaling right away, and you don't have manage your node and deal with the stupid thing like systemD

eecc 6y ago
Yup, I see docker (and K8s) as another Websphere.
zorpner 6y ago
> you get auto scaling right away Every time I see someone say something like this, or better yet use the word "magic", what I hear is that they don't understand how or why their system does the things it does. Nothing is free; nothing is magic; nothing "just works". You understand it or you don't, and nothing has contributed more to the plague of developers thinking they understand it when they don't than cloud-based containers (and the absurd associated costs!).
- rualca 6y ago
  > Every time I see someone say something like this, or better yet use the word "magic", what I hear is that they don't understand how or why their system does the things it does. There is nothing magic about configuring a deployment to autoscale. You set resource limits, you configure your deployment to scale up if an upper limit is reached and you didn't maxed out, and you configure your deployment to scale down if a lower limit is reached and you didn't min out. What do you find hard to understand? > Nothing is free; nothing is magic; nothing "just works". You understand it or you don't, You're the only one claiming it's magic. The rest of the world doesn't seem to have a problem after having read a couple of pages into the tutorial on how to configure autoscale on whatever service/cloud provider. > and nothing has contributed more to the plague of developers thinking they understand it when they don't than cloud-based containers (and the absurd associated costs!). You're the only one posting a baseless assertion that other developers somehow don't understand autoscaling, as if everyone around you struggles with it.
- topkeks 6y ago
  Seems like you don't understand modern software development or systems architecting. For example Google's Cloud Run is about the same cost as a similar virtual machine if running 24/7, but you do get "magic" autoscaling. And if you don't like that, just run your own Kubernetes cluster with Knative.

eecc 6y ago

Yup, I see docker (and K8s) as another Websphere.

zorpner 6y ago

> you get auto scaling right away Every time I see someone say something like this, or better yet use the word "magic", what I hear is that they don't understand how or why their system does the things it does. Nothing is free; nothing is magic; nothing "just works". You understand it or you don't, and nothing has contributed more to the plague of developers thinking they understand it when they don't than cloud-based containers (and the absurd associated costs!).

rualca 6y ago
> Every time I see someone say something like this, or better yet use the word "magic", what I hear is that they don't understand how or why their system does the things it does. There is nothing magic about configuring a deployment to autoscale. You set resource limits, you configure your deployment to scale up if an upper limit is reached and you didn't maxed out, and you configure your deployment to scale down if a lower limit is reached and you didn't min out. What do you find hard to understand? > Nothing is free; nothing is magic; nothing "just works". You understand it or you don't, You're the only one claiming it's magic. The rest of the world doesn't seem to have a problem after having read a couple of pages into the tutorial on how to configure autoscale on whatever service/cloud provider. > and nothing has contributed more to the plague of developers thinking they understand it when they don't than cloud-based containers (and the absurd associated costs!). You're the only one posting a baseless assertion that other developers somehow don't understand autoscaling, as if everyone around you struggles with it.
topkeks 6y ago
Seems like you don't understand modern software development or systems architecting. For example Google's Cloud Run is about the same cost as a similar virtual machine if running 24/7, but you do get "magic" autoscaling. And if you don't like that, just run your own Kubernetes cluster with Knative.