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Show HN: Web app that blows water out of your phone's speakers (warning: loud)
- anonytrary 6y agoNSFH warning! Take the title literally. I interpreted the title as "Webapp that creates natural water sound using your phone", so I clicked the play button without realizing this is NOT a water sound. This is a tone that is played which expels water that got into the phone from the speaker, using the outward pressure created by the tone. Really cool idea.
- josephmxm 6y agoMy bad. I should have put some type of warning
- supermatt 6y agoLikely inspired by the Apple Watch feature. I’m surprised Apple didn’t build this into their phones as well. Good job!
- saagarjha 6y agoYou're technically not supposed to submerge your iPhone; it voids their warranty. (It drives me mad that they do this in their advertisements, but I guess showing people doing things that would void their device's warranty is not false advertising…)
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 6y agoSeriously? Wow that’s all kinds of messed up to advertise and then tell people not to do. As a society, we’re in a pretty bad place when it comes to how much we simply expect false-ish advertising.
- codetrotter 6y agoPerhaps tangential but I wanted to mention that if anyone else is looking to take photos under water at shallowish depths (about 10m at most), I found a cheap and reliable waterproof case with camera trigger button that I’ve been happy with. The camera trigger button of the case works by mechanically pushing the volume button on your phone, which when the built-in photo app of your phone is open works to take photos. https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001374646779.html https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001374646779.html It fits many different models, including my iPhone X. Still I take a couple of precautions with it. First time I used it, I put paper inside of it instead of my phone inside of it and submerged it for a while to see that it didn’t leak. And when I use it I always dry it off completely after use on the outside before opening it and then carefully inspect the inside to be sure that it still didn’t leak. If you do find a leak after use, treat it like you would treat dropping your phone into water unprotected. That is, if there was a leak turn the phone off, dry the outside of the phone with paper and put the phone in an open box with a lot of rice and keep it there for an appropriate amount of time to have the rice absorb as much moisture as possible.
- h0l0cube 6y ago> dry the outside of the phone with paper and put the phone in an open box with a lot of rice iFixIt claims this is just psychological comfort and offers this advice: > The real secret to water damage? You don't want to dry it! > What you want to do is first displace the water—or more specifically, all the conductive stuff in the water. You can do this best by using 90%+ isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and a toothbrush. Open your device as soon as you can, take out the battery, and get scrubbing. Submerge the whole motherboard in alcohol, and scrub away. https://www.ifixit.com/Wiki/Don%27t_Put_Your_Device_in_Rice._Here%27s_Why https://www.ifixit.com/Wiki/Don%27t_Put_Your_Device_in_Rice....... (as noted in the reply, there's 3 dots that are filtered from the end of the URL, so try adding them manually or copy below) https://www.ifixit.com/Wiki/Don%27t_Put_Your_Device_in_Rice._Here%27s_Why...
- nindalf 6y agoThat link is broken because the real link has 3 dots at the end.
- flemhans 6y agoI submerged my iPhone XS on several occasions, thinking it was OK to do. Eventually the FaceID sensor stopped working.
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- andreareina 6y agoThe italian regulators sure think it is: https://9to5mac.com/2020/11/30/apple-fined-12m-for-unfair-claims-about-iphone-water-resistance/ https://9to5mac.com/2020/11/30/apple-fined-12m-for-unfair-cl...
- saagarjha 6y agoClearly Apple isn't concerned, since they published this three days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCQpOaR3sVo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCQpOaR3sVo
- rangibaby 6y agoRelax, it’s iPhone* *until you do the thing we showed in our commercial and break your phone. When you come to the Genius Bar, we’ll point out that the commercial did in fact warn you to not do the thing we clearly showed in the commercial. Sucker!
- Someone 6y agoThat’s about the iPhone 12, which they say is better than previous models (https://www.apple.com/iphone-12/specs/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-12/specs/ says (in a footnote) “iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP68 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 6 meters up to 30 minutes). Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty.” The Italian fine is about iPhone ≤ 11, about which they (¿now?) have a similar footnote at https://www.apple.com/iphone-11/specs/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-11/specs/
- bb123 6y agoIt looks like they skirt pretty closely around "submerging" the device. At no point in the commercial is it actually submerged in a body of water.
- martin_a 6y agoBut you can always dry your iPhone in the microwave?! Or could you charge it that way, I'm not sure anymore...
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- jonsolo 6y agoLots of car commercials show them performing well in an accident, but nobody expects crash damage to be covered by warranty. Why must phones be held to a different standard?
- daniellarusso 6y agoWell, the phone being dunked in water, the end result being advertised, is that it is still a fully functional device, not that it was sacrificed to protect oneself from physical harm. The cars, after they crash, do not work anymore.
- jonsolo 6y agoMaking a product resist damage shouldn’t confer insurance against said damage. Apple also uses Gorilla Glass so you can drop your phone a dozen times without damage. Are people mad at Apple for not covering every cracked screen?
- XorNot 6y agoShowing a car siding crash damage is quite different to speaking a phone still working, and manufactures of cars world be sued info oblivion if the advertised crash safety performance wasn't actually achieved.
- rirarobo 6y agoDo you have an example of a commercial that shows the car being advertised performing unrealistically in a collision? I'm curious because most of the commercials with car collisions I could find are actually safety PSAs, not commercials for a specific make and model. Aside from those, I found some examples of a brand showing the aftermath of a collision (very briefly) in an ad that skirts the line between being a PSA and a testimonial. Interestingly, most of these were from Subaru. In any case, that's still quite far from the phone commercial, where the phone is put into a situation that voids the warranty, but no physical damage or any indication thereof is shown. A comparable car commercial would need to show a car in a collision (or compromising condition) that performs unrealistically and ultimately gets away completely unscathed. My intuition would be that most car advertisers wouldn't want to associate their vehicle with such a scenario, nor set unrealistic expectations around safety critical product features, outside of maybe product placement in a James Bond film. So, I'm very curious, do you have any examples of comparable car commercials that you could share?
- tlbsofware 6y agoOnly if the white water indicator inside the SIM card port turns red or pink, there’s an O ring around the sim tray to provide the water resistance
- birdman3131 6y agoCat S60 had this before the apple watch did.
- zxcvgm 6y agoIf you're wondering how effective this is, the Slow Mo Guys has filmed it working in slow motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIEwy8rPik4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIEwy8rPik4
- matsemann 6y agoKinda genius, but also kinda make me think that the Apple Watch is useless near water? Lots of people here have said they prefer the Apple Watch to a more dedicated fitness watch (like a Garmin FR 945), but looks like that's only possible in dry conditions.
- wlesieutre 6y agoIt can do fitness tracking while swimming, but the main input is a touchscreen so it's not really made to be operated while wet.
- Lammy 6y agoFWIW, check out myNoise https://mynoise.net/ https://mynoise.net/
- josephmxm 6y agothis is cool! Thanks for sharing.
- bellyfullofbac 6y agoNeat! Today I Learned, it's Gregorian Chanting and not Georgian Chanting, and it has nothing to do with the country of Georgia.
- shash7 6y agoThe best part is that its not even an app. Just go to the link on your phone and press that button. Simple as.
- perryizgr8 6y agoI never knew my phone could be this loud.
- hoten 6y agoI never knew my phone had a little tiny fan.
- samstokes 6y agoI wanted to see whether this sound could also be used to amuse my cat, and I can conclusively report that she is not amused.
- anthropodie 6y ago> So you've dropped your phone in the toilet, Would you guys pick it up? I am not sure what I would do. Edit: of course, I would not let it clog the drain. I mean would you use it afterward.
- Daneel_ 6y agoI'd pick it up. Pee and poo washes off and phones are expensive, not to mention non-trivial to replace.
- adrianN 6y agoA phone is ten to twenty hours of minimum wage, and probably a few hundred kilograms of CO2. Not to mention the stuff stored on it. Of course I'd pick it up.
- esoterica 6y agoMore like 100-200 hours of minimum wage if it’s a nice phone.
- daniellarusso 6y ago$145 before taxes are removed for working 20 hours. It would take 97 hours of untaxed minimum wage work to purchase an iPhone 12 mini.
- adrianN 6y agoI guess it shows that I only buy used crap phones.
- 3np 6y agoHave and did. Got lucky as it chugged along fine for a couple of years more after.
- redis_mlc 6y agoSpot the soy boy. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Soy%20Boy https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Soy%20Boy Try working on a farm someday. (HN glamorizes farming, but working half a day on one is a good reality check.)
- quickthrower2 6y agoWhat’s the frequency Kenneth! I’d love to know more about why this tone and not another. Is a resonance thing? Max energy possible thing? Anything special about the shape of the wave?
- s_gourichon 6y agoWebsite plays https://fixmyspeakers.com/static/tone.mp3 https://fixmyspeakers.com/static/tone.mp3 Spectrogram shows high energy at many frequencies. Waveform shows saturated curve, no surprise. Might have been just recorded from some analog circuit.
- quickthrower2 6y agoMy dog hates it!
- ComodoHacker 6y agoOr a metal album recorded in the last 10 years.
- jgtrosh 6y agoI pressed the button, it beeped a couple of times, and then while I was scrolling Firefox crashed. First time it happened on my phone!
- rjzzleep 6y agoOn iOS there are these Shortcuts you can install in the integrated automation app: "Water Eject is a simple, yet powerful Siri Shortcut built for iOS and designed to protect your premium Apple devices after being in accidental contact with water by generating an ultra low 165Hz frequency sound wave that propels moisture out from the speaker cavity system." https://routinehub.co/shortcut/571/ https://routinehub.co/shortcut/571/
- ashazar 6y agoBack in the days of first iPhone apps, there was an app for that. I don't recall the name of that app; but it may be this `Blower`. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blower/id335862325 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blower/id335862325
- throwanem 6y agoPretty cool! Might be worth explicitly mentioning that the volume needs to be all the way up for best effect.
- racl101 6y agoI read the title figuratively: like when something is good quality it blows something out of the water.
- somedude895 6y agoNow I'm tempted to hold my phone under a stream of water to test this out.
- peanut_worm 6y agoI didn’t know my iPhone could get that loud