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No mention of increased crumple zone, which was probably the entire reason for the redesign in the first place? Sheesh. I assume the article was written entirel

by tpmx 6y ago

No mention of increased crumple zone, which was probably the entire reason for the redesign in the first place? Sheesh. I assume the article was written entirely based on a press release together with a nice pack of product photos. The previous models were injury/death traps.

jojobas 6y ago
Was wondering why not cab-over-engine, I guess this is the answer.
- kelnos 6y ago
  Also wouldn't that raise the height of the driver's seat? Would make it harder to reach standard-height mailboxes from the driver's window.
thrower123 6y ago
>The previous models were injury/death traps Particularly since they routinely swing in and out of the roadway without looking or even using their directional signals. It's best to treat a mail truck on a roadway as a being of pure chaos, utterly unpredictable and capricious, if not always actively malicious.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
These vehicles rarely make it above 40mph and the drivers often don't use seat belts. Spending an extra hundred bucks per vehicle for a nice N-way adjustable seat or spending engineering hours making the seat-belts more convenient will have far greater benefits than throwing random safety technologies at it. The previous models were designed in the 1980s. All 1980s work vehicles are/were death traps by modern clipboard warrior standards.
- tpmx 6y ago
  > These vehicles rarely make it above 40mph That speed is quite deadly with zero crumple zone.
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    No. It's really not. Unless you're a frail elderly person (not the post office's hiring pool, this should go without saying). If you're wearing a seat-belt that's an "I'm sore the next day" speed. If you're not wearing a seat belt then you're going through the windshield and it doesn't matter how the vehicle is equipped.
    - kube-system 6y ago
      Yes, it actually is. Modern crumple zones on US market passenger cars are designed for 40mph crashes. The IIHS performs crash tests at speeds faster than any other crash worthiness program on the planet: 40mph. Every (routine) crash test video you've ever seen was at 40mph or less.
- cma 6y ago
  > These vehicles rarely make it above 40mph and the drivers often don't use seat belts. A crumple zone is going to still help in that case (40mph head on with another car at 40mph is significant, crumple zones in both vehicles would help both occupants).
uptown 6y ago
"No mention of increased crumple zone" Can't they just write "DO NOT BEND" in sharpie on the side?

by tpmx 6y ago

jojobas 6y ago

Was wondering why not cab-over-engine, I guess this is the answer.

kelnos 6y ago
Also wouldn't that raise the height of the driver's seat? Would make it harder to reach standard-height mailboxes from the driver's window.

thrower123 6y ago

>The previous models were injury/death traps Particularly since they routinely swing in and out of the roadway without looking or even using their directional signals. It's best to treat a mail truck on a roadway as a being of pure chaos, utterly unpredictable and capricious, if not always actively malicious.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

These vehicles rarely make it above 40mph and the drivers often don't use seat belts. Spending an extra hundred bucks per vehicle for a nice N-way adjustable seat or spending engineering hours making the seat-belts more convenient will have far greater benefits than throwing random safety technologies at it. The previous models were designed in the 1980s. All 1980s work vehicles are/were death traps by modern clipboard warrior standards.

tpmx 6y ago
> These vehicles rarely make it above 40mph That speed is quite deadly with zero crumple zone.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  No. It's really not. Unless you're a frail elderly person (not the post office's hiring pool, this should go without saying). If you're wearing a seat-belt that's an "I'm sore the next day" speed. If you're not wearing a seat belt then you're going through the windshield and it doesn't matter how the vehicle is equipped.
  - kube-system 6y ago
    Yes, it actually is. Modern crumple zones on US market passenger cars are designed for 40mph crashes. The IIHS performs crash tests at speeds faster than any other crash worthiness program on the planet: 40mph. Every (routine) crash test video you've ever seen was at 40mph or less.
cma 6y ago
> These vehicles rarely make it above 40mph and the drivers often don't use seat belts. A crumple zone is going to still help in that case (40mph head on with another car at 40mph is significant, crumple zones in both vehicles would help both occupants).

uptown 6y ago

"No mention of increased crumple zone" Can't they just write "DO NOT BEND" in sharpie on the side?