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You can calculate the risk for yourself, based on data from the UK: https://qcovid.org/Calculation https://qcovid.org/Calculation eg. 30 year old healthy whit

You can calculate the risk for yourself, based on data from the UK: https://qcovid.org/Calculation https://qcovid.org/Calculation eg. 30 year old healthy white male: 1 in 7,092 risk of hospitalisation, 1 in 250,000 risk of death. By contrast the risk of death from anything for a 30 year old male in the UK is 1 in 1,215: http://www.bandolier.org.uk/booth/Risk/dyingage.html http://www.bandolier.org.uk/booth/Risk/dyingage.html Even taking a healthy 80 year old male, the risk of death from COVID is 1 in 275, whereas the annual risk of death from anything is 1 in 15.

angry_octet 6y ago
I thought this bullshit was done with months ago? - Death is not the only bad outcome. Many otherwise healthy younger people have experienced months of debilitating sickness, in addition to weeks of the worst flu you've ever had. - You can pass it on to people less fortunate than yourself, who can't take weeks off work, and (in some countries) may not have health insurance, and might be at higher risk of death or morbidity. - You're burdening a stretched health system, literally preventing other people (or even yourself) from getting life saving treatment. - You're stopping me and everyone else from going to the pub.
rleigh 6y ago
You also need to bear in mind that it's much more subtle than the "risk of death". If you're vaccinated, the symptoms and complications are greatly reduced even in younger age groups. So a small risk is reduced to a tiny risk. But it's not just about the risk to the individual. It's about the risk to the population as a whole. Both of these risks need to be balanced. While the vaccine might not /appear/ to be worth it at a young age, by getting vaccinated and blocking the transmission of the virus you are protecting the population at large. From that perspective, not getting vaccinated is actually very selfish (using the exact meaning of the word). People need to look at both the personal and societal aspects of the vaccination strategy. There will be social pressure to be vaccinated because it's not just about you, it's about everyone, and if we are to reopen society and get back to normal, then the expectation is that nearly all of us will need to get vaccinated.
blub 6y ago
I bet the risks for flu are even lower than that and I still get the vaccine every year like clockwork. Because having the disease sucks and can leave you with long-term sequelae. The fact that we have insufficiently tested vaccines does make the decision harder.
Broken_Hippo 6y ago
As others have said, there is more risk than just death. I don't really want more of a chance to have a poor quality of life for the rest of my life. The vaccine greatly reduces the chances that I have any of these things. Or heck, it even greatly reduces the chance that I'll have a week or two of misery.

angry_octet 6y ago

I thought this bullshit was done with months ago? - Death is not the only bad outcome. Many otherwise healthy younger people have experienced months of debilitating sickness, in addition to weeks of the worst flu you've ever had. - You can pass it on to people less fortunate than yourself, who can't take weeks off work, and (in some countries) may not have health insurance, and might be at higher risk of death or morbidity. - You're burdening a stretched health system, literally preventing other people (or even yourself) from getting life saving treatment. - You're stopping me and everyone else from going to the pub.

rleigh 6y ago

You also need to bear in mind that it's much more subtle than the "risk of death". If you're vaccinated, the symptoms and complications are greatly reduced even in younger age groups. So a small risk is reduced to a tiny risk. But it's not just about the risk to the individual. It's about the risk to the population as a whole. Both of these risks need to be balanced. While the vaccine might not /appear/ to be worth it at a young age, by getting vaccinated and blocking the transmission of the virus you are protecting the population at large. From that perspective, not getting vaccinated is actually very selfish (using the exact meaning of the word). People need to look at both the personal and societal aspects of the vaccination strategy. There will be social pressure to be vaccinated because it's not just about you, it's about everyone, and if we are to reopen society and get back to normal, then the expectation is that nearly all of us will need to get vaccinated.

blub 6y ago

I bet the risks for flu are even lower than that and I still get the vaccine every year like clockwork. Because having the disease sucks and can leave you with long-term sequelae. The fact that we have insufficiently tested vaccines does make the decision harder.

Broken_Hippo 6y ago

As others have said, there is more risk than just death. I don't really want more of a chance to have a poor quality of life for the rest of my life. The vaccine greatly reduces the chances that I have any of these things. Or heck, it even greatly reduces the chance that I'll have a week or two of misery.