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The more i look at snap, the more i dislike it. The same goes for flatpak too unfortunately. Currently I feel like AppImage, while kind of a hack, might just

by lawl 6y ago

The more i look at snap, the more i dislike it. The same goes for flatpak too unfortunately. Currently I feel like AppImage, while kind of a hack, might just be the best solution.

bogwog 6y ago
AppImage is the best, and I wish more developers would use it. At least for desktop/end-user software. Maybe Guix is a better choice for a server, though I don't have much experience with it.
- VadimPR 6y ago
  I use it on https://mudlet.org https://mudlet.org and it's amazing. No Linux users are ever issues with them - it's an effectively solved distribution problem. The one drawback is that you need to use an ancient compiler, but for our purposes that ancient compiler supports C++17 so that is okay for the time being.
- SilverRed 6y ago
  Appimage is basically a linux port of the windows workflow where you download an exe file from random sites and run it. No update mechanism, no discovery, no install/remove mechanisms no sandboxing. Appimage is super cool for being able to quickly test builds of stuff but for software you actually use its not great. I have been using Fedora Silverblue for a few months now and using flatpak to install every gui tool and its been excellent. I use a tool called flatseal which lets me tighten or loosen permissions for apps based on what I need which has been awesome. I can just flat out disable networking on apps if I don't need the networked parts.
  - lawl 6y ago
    > Appimage is basically a linux port of the windows workflow where you download an exe file from random sites and run it. No update mechanism, no discovery, no install/remove mechanisms no sandboxing. Not 100% true. See e.g. https://github.com/probonopd/go-appimage/blob/master/src/appimaged/README.md https://github.com/probonopd/go-appimage/blob/master/src/app... Since the AppImage format is always the same and not just a random .exe it is possible to build tools around them.
kaba0 6y ago
The funny thing is, that NixOS did actually solve the goddamn dependency hell problem in the best possible way and yet there are n different ways that try to do something, but fail. Linux should at least converge on this one actuall good solution.

by lawl 6y ago

The more i look at snap, the more i dislike it. The same goes for flatpak too unfortunately. Currently I feel like AppImage, while kind of a hack, might just be the best solution.

bogwog 6y ago

AppImage is the best, and I wish more developers would use it. At least for desktop/end-user software. Maybe Guix is a better choice for a server, though I don't have much experience with it.

VadimPR 6y ago
I use it on https://mudlet.org https://mudlet.org and it's amazing. No Linux users are ever issues with them - it's an effectively solved distribution problem. The one drawback is that you need to use an ancient compiler, but for our purposes that ancient compiler supports C++17 so that is okay for the time being.
SilverRed 6y ago
Appimage is basically a linux port of the windows workflow where you download an exe file from random sites and run it. No update mechanism, no discovery, no install/remove mechanisms no sandboxing. Appimage is super cool for being able to quickly test builds of stuff but for software you actually use its not great. I have been using Fedora Silverblue for a few months now and using flatpak to install every gui tool and its been excellent. I use a tool called flatseal which lets me tighten or loosen permissions for apps based on what I need which has been awesome. I can just flat out disable networking on apps if I don't need the networked parts.
- lawl 6y ago
  > Appimage is basically a linux port of the windows workflow where you download an exe file from random sites and run it. No update mechanism, no discovery, no install/remove mechanisms no sandboxing. Not 100% true. See e.g. https://github.com/probonopd/go-appimage/blob/master/src/appimaged/README.md https://github.com/probonopd/go-appimage/blob/master/src/app... Since the AppImage format is always the same and not just a random .exe it is possible to build tools around them.

kaba0 6y ago

The funny thing is, that NixOS did actually solve the goddamn dependency hell problem in the best possible way and yet there are n different ways that try to do something, but fail. Linux should at least converge on this one actuall good solution.