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Take a look at almost every successful product and find the hacker news post where it was originally announced. Dropbox is useless because ftp exists, the iphon

Take a look at almost every successful product and find the hacker news post where it was originally announced. Dropbox is useless because ftp exists, the iphone is useless because its too big and will get fingerprints, airpods are stupid because they look ugly and will fall in the drain, everyone will just use a strap to tie them to their phone. If product managers listened to hacker news users our computers would be a faster version of Windows XP machines since that is the UI that most HN users prefer.

kristopolous 6y ago
That's just plain false. Here's dropbox's launch on hn: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=301605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=301605 iphone launch was june 2007, here's a post made shortly after, all positive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31873 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31873 Airpods was more questions (quality, battery life etc), not gernally dismissive though: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12446094 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12446094 HN also hated the flops before they were flops. Google glass: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5249841 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5249841 GoPro's karma drone: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12532948 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12532948 Amazon's Fire phone: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7911934 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7911934 FirefoxOS: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5969691 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5969691 so no, totally false.
- SilverRed 6y ago
  The dropbox thread seems to be not the initial announcement but the public release which is after people have already tried it and not the initial reaction to the idea alone. The iphone is the same, people commenting while they have the product already. People tend to hate on an idea when they first hear it but come to like it after they have it in their hands (if its actually good) I'm also partly taking in to consideration the reddit drama over the iphone and airpods which is a low bar I guess but the initial reactions, especially to the airpods was very poor.
  - kristopolous 6y ago
    Alright, if you'd like to find counter examples I'd love to see. I've heard your sentiment before so I decided to actually go and check. I don't believe I cherry-picked. I tried to pick a balance between the earliest mention and the largest comment thread (sometime the earliest mention had zero comments). I know such malcontents exist, I'm not disputing that. I just believe the evidence stands that they are not the majority voice. Personally I've been using hn hype as a proxy for investment advice for years. Whenever I see a bunch of fanboys pop up, I go off and buy the stock. Whenever they are negative, I consider selling it. I bought things like Tesla and Bitcoin based on hn hype, both in 2011. They're way more right then they are wrong, just saying.

kristopolous 6y ago

That's just plain false. Here's dropbox's launch on hn: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=301605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=301605 iphone launch was june 2007, here's a post made shortly after, all positive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31873 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31873 Airpods was more questions (quality, battery life etc), not gernally dismissive though: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12446094 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12446094 HN also hated the flops before they were flops. Google glass: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5249841 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5249841 GoPro's karma drone: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12532948 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12532948 Amazon's Fire phone: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7911934 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7911934 FirefoxOS: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5969691 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5969691 so no, totally false.

SilverRed 6y ago
The dropbox thread seems to be not the initial announcement but the public release which is after people have already tried it and not the initial reaction to the idea alone. The iphone is the same, people commenting while they have the product already. People tend to hate on an idea when they first hear it but come to like it after they have it in their hands (if its actually good) I'm also partly taking in to consideration the reddit drama over the iphone and airpods which is a low bar I guess but the initial reactions, especially to the airpods was very poor.
- kristopolous 6y ago
  Alright, if you'd like to find counter examples I'd love to see. I've heard your sentiment before so I decided to actually go and check. I don't believe I cherry-picked. I tried to pick a balance between the earliest mention and the largest comment thread (sometime the earliest mention had zero comments). I know such malcontents exist, I'm not disputing that. I just believe the evidence stands that they are not the majority voice. Personally I've been using hn hype as a proxy for investment advice for years. Whenever I see a bunch of fanboys pop up, I go off and buy the stock. Whenever they are negative, I consider selling it. I bought things like Tesla and Bitcoin based on hn hype, both in 2011. They're way more right then they are wrong, just saying.