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I am naive, but it is crazy to me that we experience outages of any magnitude like this from any major supplier (GOOG/MS/AMZN). I get alot of crap for being cro

I am naive, but it is crazy to me that we experience outages of any magnitude like this from any major supplier (GOOG/MS/AMZN). I get alot of crap for being crotchety about making my backups in and out of the cloud, and it's stuff like this that proves my point!

ocdtrekkie 6y ago
"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." - Scotty Trying to provide globally available, replicated service that meets every and all needs 24/7/365 is basically making Active Directory about 600x more complicated than it would be otherwise. It's basically impossible for a service that complicated to meet the uptime of... installing Windows Server 2019 on a VM and patching it monthly. (Bear in mind, if I know when my business is not affected by an outage, I can do it without being disruptive. Microsoft, by definition, cannot. Every moment is critical since their customers are everywhere.) There are types of businesses to which the former might be a necessary solution, but most would be better off with the latter. It'll be really interesting when people start realizing the cloud is mostly just a scam to get people on subscription revenue streams, and not actually providing any greater reliability or less management overhead than what they had before.
- heyflyguy 6y ago
  I agree!
- Spooky23 6y ago
  Plus, with a massive customer base and eating their own dog food makes their schedule be a priority over other customers. Your priority is lower than theirs. Microsoft is always a shitshow this time of year. Infrastructure changes usually land ahead of spring releases.
  - ocdtrekkie 6y ago
    Indeed, no matter how much we pay Microsoft, they will not care about our business as we care about our business.
  - SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
    Though I'd also rather a company eat their own dog food for something like this, so personally that's a tough one. I wouldn't want to find out Microsoft's internal infrastructure is all on AWS.

ocdtrekkie 6y ago

"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." - Scotty Trying to provide globally available, replicated service that meets every and all needs 24/7/365 is basically making Active Directory about 600x more complicated than it would be otherwise. It's basically impossible for a service that complicated to meet the uptime of... installing Windows Server 2019 on a VM and patching it monthly. (Bear in mind, if I know when my business is not affected by an outage, I can do it without being disruptive. Microsoft, by definition, cannot. Every moment is critical since their customers are everywhere.) There are types of businesses to which the former might be a necessary solution, but most would be better off with the latter. It'll be really interesting when people start realizing the cloud is mostly just a scam to get people on subscription revenue streams, and not actually providing any greater reliability or less management overhead than what they had before.

heyflyguy 6y ago
I agree!
Spooky23 6y ago
Plus, with a massive customer base and eating their own dog food makes their schedule be a priority over other customers. Your priority is lower than theirs. Microsoft is always a shitshow this time of year. Infrastructure changes usually land ahead of spring releases.
- ocdtrekkie 6y ago
  Indeed, no matter how much we pay Microsoft, they will not care about our business as we care about our business.
- SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
  Though I'd also rather a company eat their own dog food for something like this, so personally that's a tough one. I wouldn't want to find out Microsoft's internal infrastructure is all on AWS.