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I'm honestly not sure what I'm missing when avoiding Telegram's non-private conversations. There's no desktop client support (unlike Signal which works on a des

I'm honestly not sure what I'm missing when avoiding Telegram's non-private conversations. There's no desktop client support (unlike Signal which works on a desktop mostly seamlessly, including group video) and no option at all to backup and sync conversations between devices (unlike Signal's rather limited options). If I was alright with Telegram's non-E2EE conversations, I would prefer WhatsApp for its wider adoption among my contact base.

eptcyka 6y ago
What do you mean, no desktop client support? There's a fully featured desktop client for Telegram, and I've never had my desktop clients have their sqlite database corrupt itself.
- vinay427 6y ago
  I was trying to emphasize this further which is why I (ninja) edited in the second paragraph, but unfortunately it still isn't very obvious: > when avoiding Telegram's non-private conversations
  - austhrow743 6y ago
    Kind of reads like "not sure what I'm missing by avoiding Telegram's non-private conversations" rather than the intended "taking a need for e2e as a given, I don't understand..."
- tjohns 6y ago
  It depends on which desktop client you're using. Telegram's native Mac app (https://macos.telegram.org/ https://macos.telegram.org/) supports E2E-encrypted secret chats. Their cross platform Qt-based app (https://desktop.telegram.org/ https://desktop.telegram.org/) does not support this feature. Notably, the experience in a Telegram secret chat behaves differently then regular chats. A secret chat is tied to one device; you can't start a secret chat on your phone and pick it up on your tablet/desktop. There's also no server-side message history. Regular (non-secret) chats don't have these limitations.
- jyrkesh 6y ago
  Windows user here: secret chats are not supported on the desktop client at all. That's my only gripe. The rest of the app is incredible, and absolutely the most delightful app I use every day. I cite it often as an example of a native app that beats the pants off of anything Electron-based, it's just so damn fast.
  - Tiberium 6y ago
    Just FYI - they're not supported in the official tdesktop client, but they are supposed in some third party ones, e.g. Unigram (if you're on Windows 10).

eptcyka 6y ago

What do you mean, no desktop client support? There's a fully featured desktop client for Telegram, and I've never had my desktop clients have their sqlite database corrupt itself.

vinay427 6y ago
I was trying to emphasize this further which is why I (ninja) edited in the second paragraph, but unfortunately it still isn't very obvious: > when avoiding Telegram's non-private conversations
- austhrow743 6y ago
  Kind of reads like "not sure what I'm missing by avoiding Telegram's non-private conversations" rather than the intended "taking a need for e2e as a given, I don't understand..."
tjohns 6y ago
It depends on which desktop client you're using. Telegram's native Mac app (https://macos.telegram.org/ https://macos.telegram.org/) supports E2E-encrypted secret chats. Their cross platform Qt-based app (https://desktop.telegram.org/ https://desktop.telegram.org/) does not support this feature. Notably, the experience in a Telegram secret chat behaves differently then regular chats. A secret chat is tied to one device; you can't start a secret chat on your phone and pick it up on your tablet/desktop. There's also no server-side message history. Regular (non-secret) chats don't have these limitations.
jyrkesh 6y ago
Windows user here: secret chats are not supported on the desktop client at all. That's my only gripe. The rest of the app is incredible, and absolutely the most delightful app I use every day. I cite it often as an example of a native app that beats the pants off of anything Electron-based, it's just so damn fast.
- Tiberium 6y ago
  Just FYI - they're not supported in the official tdesktop client, but they are supposed in some third party ones, e.g. Unigram (if you're on Windows 10).