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Let’s see if any new data comes out, but from what’s public right now I can only see this pause costing many lives across Europe. We’ve had millions of doses i

by agd 6y ago

Let’s see if any new data comes out, but from what’s public right now I can only see this pause costing many lives across Europe. We’ve had millions of doses in the UK without serious side effects, so unless there were faulty batches I think any risk must be minuscule, and certainly lower than the known risks of covid deaths for unvaccinated people. This is a case where a cautious ‘first do no harm’ approach will likely cost many lives.

libertine 6y ago
These cases are 4x greater then the ones in the UK, so either UK isn't reporting some cases, or something isn't right with AZ production. Also, I'm pretty sure each regulator knows the pros and cons of this decision, and they know well the consequences of stopping the vaccination - it's not like they are all incompetent. I mean, imagine the odds of the amount of ignorance to have reached this level of decision making in several independent countries. Not likely, at all. It's not a "a case where a cautious ‘first do no harm’ approach will likely cost many lives.", it's them doing their job and follow the procedure that has worked pretty well, based in science. It's what builds trust in vaccines and medicines, knowing that regulators are there, aware, and if they think something is wrong they won't take a stupid risk out of pride or pressure.
- agd 6y ago
  The European regulator and the WHO have said that countries should continue to vaccinate with the AZ vaccine, but the national governments are ignoring this. With this many countries pausing vaccinations, we know that there will potentially be thousands of extra deaths.
  - libertine 6y ago
    EMA retracted what was said and is evaluating the problem. The WHO doesn't want this event to spread to other countries, because the vaccine seems safe, this might be a production problem. Should be investigated, and if it's a bad batch shouldn't be given to people.

by agd 6y ago

libertine 6y ago

These cases are 4x greater then the ones in the UK, so either UK isn't reporting some cases, or something isn't right with AZ production. Also, I'm pretty sure each regulator knows the pros and cons of this decision, and they know well the consequences of stopping the vaccination - it's not like they are all incompetent. I mean, imagine the odds of the amount of ignorance to have reached this level of decision making in several independent countries. Not likely, at all. It's not a "a case where a cautious ‘first do no harm’ approach will likely cost many lives.", it's them doing their job and follow the procedure that has worked pretty well, based in science. It's what builds trust in vaccines and medicines, knowing that regulators are there, aware, and if they think something is wrong they won't take a stupid risk out of pride or pressure.

agd 6y ago
The European regulator and the WHO have said that countries should continue to vaccinate with the AZ vaccine, but the national governments are ignoring this. With this many countries pausing vaccinations, we know that there will potentially be thousands of extra deaths.
- libertine 6y ago
  EMA retracted what was said and is evaluating the problem. The WHO doesn't want this event to spread to other countries, because the vaccine seems safe, this might be a production problem. Should be investigated, and if it's a bad batch shouldn't be given to people.