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I'm set to take the oxford d vaccine, but I could also take the pfizer vaccine. I've had elevated blood markers for clotting during covid-19, and now I hear of

by raducu 6y ago

I'm set to take the oxford d vaccine, but I could also take the pfizer vaccine. I've had elevated blood markers for clotting during covid-19, and now I hear of this. I'm thinking of taking 75 mg aspirin, before and after the vaccine. On the other hand, the issue is the patients have low platelet count and I understand that this is the way aspirin reduces blod clotting. So, do these patients have low platelet count because they had blod clots, or the other way around? Afik, in the case of COVID-19, clotting is an autoimune issue, so perhaps the clotting is not something related to the astra Zeneca vaccine, but something about the immune response itself.

libertine 6y ago
You should talk to your doctor and not self prescribe yourself.
qbasic_forever 6y ago
Talk to your doctor before making decisions. Taking aspirin right before a vaccine might not be a good idea as it can blunt your immune system response, but the whole point of a vaccine is to elicit a strong immune response that builds memory. I know acetaminophen is specifically mentioned as something not to take right before the COVID-19 vaccines (and afterwards, if you can deal with the immune response naturally).
- shortandsweet 6y ago
  I'm not a doctor but I can tell you what they will say and save op $200 for a useless visit. Doctor will mention there's no data and does not recommend it.
- HenryBemis 6y ago
  >can blunt your immune system response (Not a doctor) From listening to the "Faucis" of various countries (incuding the original): I believe that the vaccine is not a watered down virus, so technically you are not making yourself vulnerable/more sensitive to the virus. It is suppsed to 'teach' your body how to build the defence. Only the Chinese virus is a 'watered down' version of the virus. All the others (including the Russian) is an RNA-type-thingie.
  - kube-system 6y ago
    > Only the Chinese virus is a 'watered down' version of the virus. All the others (including the Russian) is an RNA-type-thingie. This is not true. There are 11 current vaccines in use around the world, of 4 different types. Even the vaccine mentioned in this article is an adenovirus-vector vaccine. The Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines are the only mRNA vaccines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#Vaccine_types https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#Vaccine_types
  - qbasic_forever 6y ago
    What in the world are you going on about? Drugs can make your immune system's response less severe--this is straight medical fact, look up diphenhydramine (benadryl) or anti-histamines in general. No where did I say any of these vaccines are 'live' or even attenuated coronavirus. It is 100% impossible to get infected with covid-19 from any of the vaccines. However it is possible to take a drug which lowers your immune system response and you fail to build a strong response to the vaccine and the spike protein RNA or other bits in the vaccine. Hence why I said _talk to your doctor before doing anything like taking aspirin right before the vaccine_. This site is full of pure lunacy when it comes to any COVID-19 or medical issues. The comments in this thread and many others over the past weeks are just unbelievable low quality. Folks, stay in your lanes with software and startups...
    - addicted 6y ago
      Best comment yet.
    - ficklepickle 6y ago
      From the CDC: "If the rash is itchy, you can take an antihistamine. If it is painful, you can take a pain medication like acetaminophen or a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID)." No need for speculation. RTFM applies here, too. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/allergic-reaction.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/al...
    - raducu 6y ago
- nereye 6y ago
  Is there a citation for that (acetaminophen mentioned as something not to take right before and afterwards COVID-19 vaccine)? From personal experience today (spouse getting second dose of Moderna), the nurse explicitly suggested using Tylenol to handle fever in case it occurs. Here is a quote from https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinic...: Management of post-COVID-19-vaccination symptoms For all currently authorized COVID-19 vaccines, antipyretic or analgesic medications (e.g., acetaminophen, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) can be taken for the treatment of post-vaccination local or systemic symptoms, if medically appropriate. <ellipsis>
- raducu 6y ago
  AFIK, the dosage for blood thinning properties is 75mg, anti-inflammatory dosage is much higher. I'm not worried about blunted immune response because I've taken heaps of asprin when I had COVID-19 (it might be why I got tinnitus for close to 6 months afterwards -- that or the antibiotics) and I mean grams per day and I had very high antibodies levels afterwards.
_ph_ 6y ago
According to a high-ranking doctor on the German TV today, the observed effect isn't normal thrombosis but a brain related thromboses, where prophylactic treatment is not possible.
- raducu 6y ago
  Really curious, why is prophylactic treatment not possible? Does aspirine not cross the blood brain barrier?
  - _ph_ 6y ago
    I am a bit out of my depth here, but from what I understood, it is not a normal kind of thrombosis, but more an interaction of the immune system with the thrombocytes in the brain which actually causes bleedings, so aspirine or any other blood thinner would not be helpful.
ficklepickle 6y ago
This CDC link basically says NSAIDs and antihistamines are fine https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/allergic-reaction.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/al...

by raducu 6y ago

libertine 6y ago

You should talk to your doctor and not self prescribe yourself.

qbasic_forever 6y ago

Talk to your doctor before making decisions. Taking aspirin right before a vaccine might not be a good idea as it can blunt your immune system response, but the whole point of a vaccine is to elicit a strong immune response that builds memory. I know acetaminophen is specifically mentioned as something not to take right before the COVID-19 vaccines (and afterwards, if you can deal with the immune response naturally).

shortandsweet 6y ago
I'm not a doctor but I can tell you what they will say and save op $200 for a useless visit. Doctor will mention there's no data and does not recommend it.
HenryBemis 6y ago
>can blunt your immune system response (Not a doctor) From listening to the "Faucis" of various countries (incuding the original): I believe that the vaccine is not a watered down virus, so technically you are not making yourself vulnerable/more sensitive to the virus. It is suppsed to 'teach' your body how to build the defence. Only the Chinese virus is a 'watered down' version of the virus. All the others (including the Russian) is an RNA-type-thingie.
- kube-system 6y ago
  > Only the Chinese virus is a 'watered down' version of the virus. All the others (including the Russian) is an RNA-type-thingie. This is not true. There are 11 current vaccines in use around the world, of 4 different types. Even the vaccine mentioned in this article is an adenovirus-vector vaccine. The Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines are the only mRNA vaccines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#Vaccine_types https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#Vaccine_types
- qbasic_forever 6y ago
  What in the world are you going on about? Drugs can make your immune system's response less severe--this is straight medical fact, look up diphenhydramine (benadryl) or anti-histamines in general. No where did I say any of these vaccines are 'live' or even attenuated coronavirus. It is 100% impossible to get infected with covid-19 from any of the vaccines. However it is possible to take a drug which lowers your immune system response and you fail to build a strong response to the vaccine and the spike protein RNA or other bits in the vaccine. Hence why I said _talk to your doctor before doing anything like taking aspirin right before the vaccine_. This site is full of pure lunacy when it comes to any COVID-19 or medical issues. The comments in this thread and many others over the past weeks are just unbelievable low quality. Folks, stay in your lanes with software and startups...
  - addicted 6y ago
    Best comment yet.
  - ficklepickle 6y ago
    From the CDC: "If the rash is itchy, you can take an antihistamine. If it is painful, you can take a pain medication like acetaminophen or a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID)." No need for speculation. RTFM applies here, too. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/allergic-reaction.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/al...
  - raducu 6y ago
nereye 6y ago
Is there a citation for that (acetaminophen mentioned as something not to take right before and afterwards COVID-19 vaccine)? From personal experience today (spouse getting second dose of Moderna), the nurse explicitly suggested using Tylenol to handle fever in case it occurs. Here is a quote from https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinic...: Management of post-COVID-19-vaccination symptoms For all currently authorized COVID-19 vaccines, antipyretic or analgesic medications (e.g., acetaminophen, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) can be taken for the treatment of post-vaccination local or systemic symptoms, if medically appropriate. <ellipsis>
raducu 6y ago
AFIK, the dosage for blood thinning properties is 75mg, anti-inflammatory dosage is much higher. I'm not worried about blunted immune response because I've taken heaps of asprin when I had COVID-19 (it might be why I got tinnitus for close to 6 months afterwards -- that or the antibiotics) and I mean grams per day and I had very high antibodies levels afterwards.

_ph_ 6y ago

According to a high-ranking doctor on the German TV today, the observed effect isn't normal thrombosis but a brain related thromboses, where prophylactic treatment is not possible.

raducu 6y ago
Really curious, why is prophylactic treatment not possible? Does aspirine not cross the blood brain barrier?
- _ph_ 6y ago
  I am a bit out of my depth here, but from what I understood, it is not a normal kind of thrombosis, but more an interaction of the immune system with the thrombocytes in the brain which actually causes bleedings, so aspirine or any other blood thinner would not be helpful.

ficklepickle 6y ago

This CDC link basically says NSAIDs and antihistamines are fine https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/allergic-reaction.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/al...