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Wouldn’t you have to trust WhatsApp to do the right thing too, as far as end to end encryption is concerned? How would anyone know if the original Signal E2E is
by newscracker 6y ago
Wouldn’t you have to trust WhatsApp to do the right thing too, as far as end to end encryption is concerned? How would anyone know if the original Signal E2E is still around or changes have been made to it? WhatsApp already collects, stores and shares more metadata than Signal does. Are there any audit reports from trustworthy parties on WhatsApp behaving as expected on encryption? Or are we just relying on someone working on WhatsApp to become a whistleblower?
- ash 6y agoSure, WhatsApp can go rogue at any time. Signal app is obviously better. However, at least we have a possibility to find out if WhatsApp goes evil - decompilation, protocol analysis are still available. I wouldn't also discount fear of reputation losses if E2E vanishes from WhatsApp. Compared to maybe-evil-in-the-future WhatsApp, default Telegram is already evil, because they have access to all communication right now. What do (or will) they do with all that data? (Opt-in E2E - and only for 1-on-1 chats - is almost useless. Encryption should be the default.)
- newscracker 6y agoI think you missed my point, which is that WhatsApp is already rogue by way of metadata collection (which is as valuable as content), and that there’s no way anyone can claim with certainty that it’s not gobbling up more data on the server. Even Signal has stopped publishing its server source code for nearly a year, and if we are playing the game of what Telegram is doing with the data, we can say the same about Signal too on metadata (now that more information about groups and group memberships is stored on the servers).
- ash 6y agoWe don't need to play any games to point out that Telegram can see everything, including messages.