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I agree with the majority here. Removing this option would be really bad. In addition, personally I'm open to most UI changes (I really liked the FF Quantum up

by emaro 6y ago

I agree with the majority here. Removing this option would be really bad. In addition, personally I'm open to most UI changes (I really liked the FF Quantum update). But the screenshots of the Proton UI look awful. Seems very touch-centered and (background) tabs blend into each other. Please don't do it.

dathinab 6y ago
> I agree with the majority here. Are you sure it's the majority? I would argue that people which don't care if it is removed are quite unlikely to comment on this thread. I for example really don't care if it's there or not, and besides maybe 720p screens I have a really hard time to see any value in the feature TBH. (and yes I tried it out). EDIT: To be clear what I tried out was the compact layout which is scheduled to be removed. I honestly wonder why they do change the view in the proton update because, this isn't adding any value for anyone at all. Not for touch users and not for desktop users, it just annoys people because they need to get used to a new view and for some people fits less into their general desktop design...
- dathinab 6y ago
  Now I have tried out the actual nightly proton UI: - It still seems to be in flux, the one I see (slightly) differs from the one in the pictures which differs from the one in pictures in other articles. - I never cared about the compact density at all, until I used the proton UI which feels quite a bit bulky and grabs to much attention. It's similar to how gnomes "large" title bars (with potential other) features feel clunky. And they where definitely one of (multiple) reasons I'm not using gnome... - Ironically it looks all fine on my HiDPI laptop screen, I have no complains about proton on it at all. But on my 1080p24" monitor it a different story. - The music playing/muting feature is now more discoverable, at the price of having multi line tab text. I'm not sure this is worth it tbh. And while (on my 1080p24" screen) tabs feel like they are wasting a lot of space tabs which play music feel squished together. Worse when muted they write "MUTED" there but let's be honest a muted symbol is much faster visually recognized, not sure if that matters. - I'm worried about tab bar customization being hidden behind "More Tools.." being able to e.g. remove that annoying spacers before and after the tab bar and being able to remove all the symbols I don't use matters for me. (As a side not I would love if the "in tab bar symbols" are removable, I don't need a screenshot symbol there, I'm doing screenshots with my OS). - The reader mode is gone, you are probably meant to use pocket for this? - In default style the current tab is close to not highlighted at all, this seems to be a bug as in light and dark default themes it is highlighted properly. - The background behind the tabs and the one behind the buttons/uri-bar is different leading to a visual line which makes the UI feel more bulky/attention grabbing(in a negative way) then it should be. Merging both areas visually likely would improve the feeling of the proton UI and would fit better with the new look of the tab bar I think. As a side note does anyone know if there is any explanation about why they changed the tab bar in the way they did? It seem to add a little but not much improvements for touch screens while braking common design rules about tabbed views. I do not believe it has any chance to attract new users while it has a lot of potential to scare away old users. I mean doing a lot of work for negligible improvements for touch "PC's" and music icon/mute discoverability while having a good chance to lose users seem to be a somewhat strange decision to make tbh. Or differently formulated a big UI change (feels big) should also have big improvements for most users, which I'm not seeing anywhere.

by emaro 6y ago

dathinab 6y ago

> I agree with the majority here. Are you sure it's the majority? I would argue that people which don't care if it is removed are quite unlikely to comment on this thread. I for example really don't care if it's there or not, and besides maybe 720p screens I have a really hard time to see any value in the feature TBH. (and yes I tried it out). EDIT: To be clear what I tried out was the compact layout which is scheduled to be removed. I honestly wonder why they do change the view in the proton update because, this isn't adding any value for anyone at all. Not for touch users and not for desktop users, it just annoys people because they need to get used to a new view and for some people fits less into their general desktop design...

dathinab 6y ago
Now I have tried out the actual nightly proton UI: - It still seems to be in flux, the one I see (slightly) differs from the one in the pictures which differs from the one in pictures in other articles. - I never cared about the compact density at all, until I used the proton UI which feels quite a bit bulky and grabs to much attention. It's similar to how gnomes "large" title bars (with potential other) features feel clunky. And they where definitely one of (multiple) reasons I'm not using gnome... - Ironically it looks all fine on my HiDPI laptop screen, I have no complains about proton on it at all. But on my 1080p24" monitor it a different story. - The music playing/muting feature is now more discoverable, at the price of having multi line tab text. I'm not sure this is worth it tbh. And while (on my 1080p24" screen) tabs feel like they are wasting a lot of space tabs which play music feel squished together. Worse when muted they write "MUTED" there but let's be honest a muted symbol is much faster visually recognized, not sure if that matters. - I'm worried about tab bar customization being hidden behind "More Tools.." being able to e.g. remove that annoying spacers before and after the tab bar and being able to remove all the symbols I don't use matters for me. (As a side not I would love if the "in tab bar symbols" are removable, I don't need a screenshot symbol there, I'm doing screenshots with my OS). - The reader mode is gone, you are probably meant to use pocket for this? - In default style the current tab is close to not highlighted at all, this seems to be a bug as in light and dark default themes it is highlighted properly. - The background behind the tabs and the one behind the buttons/uri-bar is different leading to a visual line which makes the UI feel more bulky/attention grabbing(in a negative way) then it should be. Merging both areas visually likely would improve the feeling of the proton UI and would fit better with the new look of the tab bar I think. As a side note does anyone know if there is any explanation about why they changed the tab bar in the way they did? It seem to add a little but not much improvements for touch screens while braking common design rules about tabbed views. I do not believe it has any chance to attract new users while it has a lot of potential to scare away old users. I mean doing a lot of work for negligible improvements for touch "PC's" and music icon/mute discoverability while having a good chance to lose users seem to be a somewhat strange decision to make tbh. Or differently formulated a big UI change (feels big) should also have big improvements for most users, which I'm not seeing anywhere.