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> is it the "old homeland" bullshit Israeli propoganda loves to spew ? How old does something needs to be for it to be bullshit. Because the land palestinians

> is it the "old homeland" bullshit Israeli propoganda loves to spew ? How old does something needs to be for it to be bullshit. Because the land palestinians have lost is now pretty old too, and their claim is subsequently bullshit. They should just accept that Israel exists, it won various wars, and now owns a lot of land where palestinians used to live.

Banana699 6y ago
Good strawman, I never meant that the claim is bullshit because it is old, I'm just describing it as such. And even conceding your faulty interpretation, Palestinians right to their land is documented by 80 years of audio-visual evidence, international and independent media reels, and UN resolutions. Israelis have a bunch of books most of them no longer believe. There isn't a fair and intelligent comparison to make here. And regarding the "ownership" Israel has over the land, well... when your 300-million-strong neighbors around you all hate the digestive bacteria in your guts and your army is the same thing as your people, I wouldn't exactly call that a stable or a secure way of living. In fact, that just sounds like a good old apartheid regime to me, not really surprising though given that Israel is just a European colony who powered through decolonization through sheer dumb luck and a powerful nanny/benefactor/ally state.
- skinkestek 6y ago
  Blame it on UN. But when the world have thrown out the jews from their homes in all the neighboring countries and collected them in Israel at the same time Palestinian Arabs were thrown out from their homes in what is today Israel it becomes weird to talk about only one of those events in isolation, don't you think? Just because Israel integrated their people instead of putting them in camps waiting for the others to be "showeled out into the sea" doesn't mean they are worse? IIRC (I'm not that into India / Pakistan) this was about the same thing UN tried when they divided India / Pakistan aroubd the same time.
  - selimthegrim 6y ago
    The UN didn't divide India/Pakistan - you're probably thinking about the armistice in Kashmir

Banana699 6y ago

Good strawman, I never meant that the claim is bullshit because it is old, I'm just describing it as such. And even conceding your faulty interpretation, Palestinians right to their land is documented by 80 years of audio-visual evidence, international and independent media reels, and UN resolutions. Israelis have a bunch of books most of them no longer believe. There isn't a fair and intelligent comparison to make here. And regarding the "ownership" Israel has over the land, well... when your 300-million-strong neighbors around you all hate the digestive bacteria in your guts and your army is the same thing as your people, I wouldn't exactly call that a stable or a secure way of living. In fact, that just sounds like a good old apartheid regime to me, not really surprising though given that Israel is just a European colony who powered through decolonization through sheer dumb luck and a powerful nanny/benefactor/ally state.

skinkestek 6y ago
Blame it on UN. But when the world have thrown out the jews from their homes in all the neighboring countries and collected them in Israel at the same time Palestinian Arabs were thrown out from their homes in what is today Israel it becomes weird to talk about only one of those events in isolation, don't you think? Just because Israel integrated their people instead of putting them in camps waiting for the others to be "showeled out into the sea" doesn't mean they are worse? IIRC (I'm not that into India / Pakistan) this was about the same thing UN tried when they divided India / Pakistan aroubd the same time.
- selimthegrim 6y ago
  The UN didn't divide India/Pakistan - you're probably thinking about the armistice in Kashmir