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> but they seldom mention this means an earlier sunset I thought normal time meant a later sunset and later sunrise in the winter. That's why DST was enacted n

> but they seldom mention this means an earlier sunset I thought normal time meant a later sunset and later sunrise in the winter. That's why DST was enacted no? So that in the winter the sun rises earlier and sets earlier? Anyways my preference would be for later sunrise and sunset, so that more of the day can be enjoyed around work. Which I think means staying on standard time the whole year.

Thorrez 6y ago
>I thought normal time meant a later sunset and later sunrise in the winter. It depends on what you're comparing against. Stuff is usually compared against normal time. So from that reference, normal time isn't a later or earlier sunset or sunrise at any time of the year. It's the standard. Normal=normal. >That's why DST was enacted no? So that in the winter the sun rises earlier and sets earlier? DST didn't change the winter, it only changed the summer. If you want to compare the current status vs a hypothetical permanent DST, then yes, the current status means the sun rises earlier and sets earlier in the winter compared to permanent DST. >Anyways my preference would be for later sunrise and sunset, so that more of the day can be enjoyed around work. Which I think means staying on standard time the whole year. No, that's staying on daylight time the whole year. Daylight time means the summer has a later sunrise and sunset. If we switch to permanent daylight time, then winter will also have a later sunrise and sunset. This was tried in the 70s, and was repealed 383 to 16 because people didn't like it: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-tried-year-round-daylight-saving-time-people-hated-it-2021-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/us-tried-year-round-daylight...
strbean 6y ago
Sounds like it makes sense, but nope. Currently winter is "normal time", and wasn't changed when DST was created. DST just pushes the day later in summer. If you woke up at sunrise on the winter equinox, that means you woke up awhile after sunrise on the summer equinox, so I guess we are "saving that wasted sunlight" by waking up an hour early in the summer.
axaxs 6y ago
You've got it backwards, DST is later sunrises and sunsets. I can't be bothered to research it, but was always told as a kid the naming was for longer daylight hours after school, so the kids could help farm.

Thorrez 6y ago

>I thought normal time meant a later sunset and later sunrise in the winter. It depends on what you're comparing against. Stuff is usually compared against normal time. So from that reference, normal time isn't a later or earlier sunset or sunrise at any time of the year. It's the standard. Normal=normal. >That's why DST was enacted no? So that in the winter the sun rises earlier and sets earlier? DST didn't change the winter, it only changed the summer. If you want to compare the current status vs a hypothetical permanent DST, then yes, the current status means the sun rises earlier and sets earlier in the winter compared to permanent DST. >Anyways my preference would be for later sunrise and sunset, so that more of the day can be enjoyed around work. Which I think means staying on standard time the whole year. No, that's staying on daylight time the whole year. Daylight time means the summer has a later sunrise and sunset. If we switch to permanent daylight time, then winter will also have a later sunrise and sunset. This was tried in the 70s, and was repealed 383 to 16 because people didn't like it: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-tried-year-round-daylight-saving-time-people-hated-it-2021-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/us-tried-year-round-daylight...

strbean 6y ago

Sounds like it makes sense, but nope. Currently winter is "normal time", and wasn't changed when DST was created. DST just pushes the day later in summer. If you woke up at sunrise on the winter equinox, that means you woke up awhile after sunrise on the summer equinox, so I guess we are "saving that wasted sunlight" by waking up an hour early in the summer.

axaxs 6y ago

You've got it backwards, DST is later sunrises and sunsets. I can't be bothered to research it, but was always told as a kid the naming was for longer daylight hours after school, so the kids could help farm.