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MacBook Air isn't marketed as a "Gaming" laptop, nor would anyone buy it as such. Claiming it's compromised because it's not great for gaming is like claiming t

MacBook Air isn't marketed as a "Gaming" laptop, nor would anyone buy it as such. Claiming it's compromised because it's not great for gaming is like claiming the Xbox is compromised because it's not good at video editing.

neogodless 6y ago
My original comment was about each comparison fitting. The M1 is an expensive entry-level thin and light, but you get excellent performance and battery life. So it does that job well. But to say it has "no compromises" would say it could work for everyone. But it isn't a well-rounded laptop because of the screen size, OS, lack of GPU power, etc. Those things don't hurt you if you're happy with MacOS, the screen size, don't care about many games, etc. so it's not a "compromise" for your use case. Not sure what that has to do with marketing - I mean you can buy based on marketing, but the original discussion was about comparing entry-level laptops and high-end laptops to the Macbook Air, and excluding Ryzen because they aren't in high-end laptops.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  > But it isn't a well-rounded laptop because of the screen size, OS, lack of GPU power, etc. You are off in the sticks. By your definition, nothing is "Well rounded". Every product is designed for a purpose. Value is about how well a product suits its that purpose. When I buy a hammer, I don't complain because it doesn't work as a screwdriver. Your continued assumption here is that every computer needs to be suitable for gaming and that assumption is nonsense. > original discussion was about comparing entry-level laptops and high-end laptops to the Macbook Air, and excluding Ryzen because they aren't in high-end laptops. Your original comment which I replied to was talking about how Ryzen wins on value. Which is only the case if you are willing to accept lower end components, less battery life, and fan noise.
  - neogodless 6y ago
    > Which is only the case if you are willing to accept lower end components, less battery life, and fan noise. But this is only the case if you compare $1200 versions of the Macbook Air to $400-500 laptops... My previous comment already discussed the existence of $1000-1200 laptops with Ryzen that don't have "lower end components" or "fan noise" (outside of gaming, which we can't compare on because we're excluding that as a possible compromise.) Sure we're getting a bit into terminology. Long battery life is a feature, just like a full selection of games - it is a compromise to have less of either. It's not a critical compromise depending on what you buy the machine for. Critical compromises (again mostly in the eye of the buyer) could arguable be bad quality or unusable screens, like those with poor color representation that prevent professional work.

neogodless 6y ago

My original comment was about each comparison fitting. The M1 is an expensive entry-level thin and light, but you get excellent performance and battery life. So it does that job well. But to say it has "no compromises" would say it could work for everyone. But it isn't a well-rounded laptop because of the screen size, OS, lack of GPU power, etc. Those things don't hurt you if you're happy with MacOS, the screen size, don't care about many games, etc. so it's not a "compromise" for your use case. Not sure what that has to do with marketing - I mean you can buy based on marketing, but the original discussion was about comparing entry-level laptops and high-end laptops to the Macbook Air, and excluding Ryzen because they aren't in high-end laptops.

ogre_codes 6y ago
> But it isn't a well-rounded laptop because of the screen size, OS, lack of GPU power, etc. You are off in the sticks. By your definition, nothing is "Well rounded". Every product is designed for a purpose. Value is about how well a product suits its that purpose. When I buy a hammer, I don't complain because it doesn't work as a screwdriver. Your continued assumption here is that every computer needs to be suitable for gaming and that assumption is nonsense. > original discussion was about comparing entry-level laptops and high-end laptops to the Macbook Air, and excluding Ryzen because they aren't in high-end laptops. Your original comment which I replied to was talking about how Ryzen wins on value. Which is only the case if you are willing to accept lower end components, less battery life, and fan noise.
- neogodless 6y ago
  > Which is only the case if you are willing to accept lower end components, less battery life, and fan noise. But this is only the case if you compare $1200 versions of the Macbook Air to $400-500 laptops... My previous comment already discussed the existence of $1000-1200 laptops with Ryzen that don't have "lower end components" or "fan noise" (outside of gaming, which we can't compare on because we're excluding that as a possible compromise.) Sure we're getting a bit into terminology. Long battery life is a feature, just like a full selection of games - it is a compromise to have less of either. It's not a critical compromise depending on what you buy the machine for. Critical compromises (again mostly in the eye of the buyer) could arguable be bad quality or unusable screens, like those with poor color representation that prevent professional work.