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You are correct. It's a pity they didn't focus on our society is affecting men and women differently- for example 90% of men being excluded from online dating,

You are correct. It's a pity they didn't focus on our society is affecting men and women differently- for example 90% of men being excluded from online dating, or many small liberal arts colleges being 70+% women, or women unable to find a man to have children with (sperm bank stats are super interesting), or both sexes having zero expectation they will own a house, or retire, ever- and how this is going to shape our society in a decade or two. I posit that the lack of economic future for most people is the driver- same as in Japan and Europe.* * For example, the labor force participation "of the population age 25 and over fell for all education groups except those who had not completed high school": https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2020/educational-attainment.html https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2020/educatio...

creamynebula 6y ago
Where can I find info about the online dating situation? I had never heard of this.
- medium_burrito 6y ago
  Sayeth OkCupid's blog: "As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh." Unfortunately was removed, presumably due to being bad for business! * https://web.archive.org/web/20091122135400/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2009/11/17/your-looks-and-online-dating/ https://web.archive.org/web/20091122135400/http://blog.okcup... * https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-g... * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027277571... * https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8370535/Woman-creates-fake-Tinder-profile-man-assumes-easy-dates.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8370535/Woman-cre...
  - creamynebula 6y ago
    The medium article was really throughout... Thank your for these!
  - matheusmoreira 6y ago
    The large group of undesirable men also suffer further stigmatization as incels. Here's the same research discussed from their perspective: https://incels.wiki/w/Tinder https://incels.wiki/w/Tinder https://incels.wiki/w/Tinder_experiments https://incels.wiki/w/Tinder_experiments
beaconstudios 6y ago
it's a real shame that conversation about how our system hurts lots of different people gets left out in favour of splitting into an oppressor/oppressed divide. In reality almost everybody is held down by the system in different ways, some individual and some by demographic. Pointing out a group of 'bad people' to pin societal ills on is as old as history itself (scapegoating), but it's never actually helped to solve those ills. We need to look at the structures in our society and how we can reshape them if we are to make life better for people.

creamynebula 6y ago

Where can I find info about the online dating situation? I had never heard of this.

medium_burrito 6y ago
Sayeth OkCupid's blog: "As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh." Unfortunately was removed, presumably due to being bad for business! * https://web.archive.org/web/20091122135400/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2009/11/17/your-looks-and-online-dating/ https://web.archive.org/web/20091122135400/http://blog.okcup... * https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-g... * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027277571... * https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8370535/Woman-creates-fake-Tinder-profile-man-assumes-easy-dates.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8370535/Woman-cre...
- creamynebula 6y ago
  The medium article was really throughout... Thank your for these!
- matheusmoreira 6y ago
  The large group of undesirable men also suffer further stigmatization as incels. Here's the same research discussed from their perspective: https://incels.wiki/w/Tinder https://incels.wiki/w/Tinder https://incels.wiki/w/Tinder_experiments https://incels.wiki/w/Tinder_experiments

beaconstudios 6y ago

it's a real shame that conversation about how our system hurts lots of different people gets left out in favour of splitting into an oppressor/oppressed divide. In reality almost everybody is held down by the system in different ways, some individual and some by demographic. Pointing out a group of 'bad people' to pin societal ills on is as old as history itself (scapegoating), but it's never actually helped to solve those ills. We need to look at the structures in our society and how we can reshape them if we are to make life better for people.