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Depending on who you ask, pretty much everything but the Gundam Builds. I jest. But, to be specific: Valvrave and Cross Ange were criticized for their depictio

by bsanr2 6y ago

Depending on who you ask, pretty much everything but the Gundam Builds. I jest. But, to be specific: Valvrave and Cross Ange were criticized for their depictions of rape; several series feature racy imagery, sometimes of underage characters (including the otherwise fantastic Gargantia - skip the dance scene); AoT, IBO, and a few others skirt some politically-sensitive material. And, frankly, a good number of the shows mentioned end up being offensively mediocre, squandering some quite strong openings (Rideback and Aldnoah.Zero especially). Probably the most objectionable thing of all.

Animats 6y ago
Hadn't thought of Rideback as mecha, but I suppose you could see it that way.
busterarm 6y ago
Objectionable content aside, I would agree that outside of the Gundam Build shows, the quality of that list is pretty poor and there was absolutely _nothing_ in the market for Super Robot fans. TTGL set a really high bar.
- bsanr2 6y ago
  Oh, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed quite a few of the others - Valvrave was a glorious trainwreck, IBO finally committed to and even doubled-down on subverting the expectations of gunota, and Majestic Prince was a solid action dramedy that proved CG mecha was viable and beautifully prefaced Orange's work on Houseki no Kuni and Beastars. (I mean, I can't fault any series that can do this to a Hiraiface. https://imgur.com/a/Eey0x31 https://imgur.com/a/Eey0x31) I dunno where we go after TTGL as far as Super Robot goes. It finally defined and crystallized the essence of that genre - the GAR - and in its thorough reconstruction didn't leave much room. You basically have to introduce real elements to not be a retread. I am glad we got Pacific Rim, that was close. If Super Robot gets its character from emotional directness and intensity, you might have to follow TTGL with something more Ideon or Bokurano-like, turned up to 11.
  - busterarm 6y ago
    Thing is, after GaoGaiGar, I was saying that series would be impossible to top. It took a decade, but TTGL did happen. I think leaning into super robot tropes might be the thing, rather than some mix of real robot shows. It's not like those are doing any better in the market right now.

by bsanr2 6y ago

Animats 6y ago

Hadn't thought of Rideback as mecha, but I suppose you could see it that way.

busterarm 6y ago

Objectionable content aside, I would agree that outside of the Gundam Build shows, the quality of that list is pretty poor and there was absolutely _nothing_ in the market for Super Robot fans. TTGL set a really high bar.

bsanr2 6y ago
Oh, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed quite a few of the others - Valvrave was a glorious trainwreck, IBO finally committed to and even doubled-down on subverting the expectations of gunota, and Majestic Prince was a solid action dramedy that proved CG mecha was viable and beautifully prefaced Orange's work on Houseki no Kuni and Beastars. (I mean, I can't fault any series that can do this to a Hiraiface. https://imgur.com/a/Eey0x31 https://imgur.com/a/Eey0x31) I dunno where we go after TTGL as far as Super Robot goes. It finally defined and crystallized the essence of that genre - the GAR - and in its thorough reconstruction didn't leave much room. You basically have to introduce real elements to not be a retread. I am glad we got Pacific Rim, that was close. If Super Robot gets its character from emotional directness and intensity, you might have to follow TTGL with something more Ideon or Bokurano-like, turned up to 11.
- busterarm 6y ago
  Thing is, after GaoGaiGar, I was saying that series would be impossible to top. It took a decade, but TTGL did happen. I think leaning into super robot tropes might be the thing, rather than some mix of real robot shows. It's not like those are doing any better in the market right now.