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Respectfully disagree that Facebook has peaked. Once growth settles down at 700 million users or so, they will roll out service after service. Start thinking ab

by temphn 15y ago

Respectfully disagree that Facebook has peaked. Once growth settles down at 700 million users or so, they will roll out service after service. Start thinking about all the things you could do with it. Overthrowing countries is just the beginning.

frossie 15y ago
You may be right that Facebook has not peaked, but saying Facebook overthrows countries is kinda like saying the inventor of the quill wrote the Declaration of Independence. Civil dissent overthrows governments. Ubiquitous communication methods certainly help organise civil dissent - but let's not forget that the French in 1789 managed it with pamphlets and soapboxes.
dimitar 15y ago
Facebook or twitter didn't overthrow anyone. Those are just communication tools and there plenty of those. Also Facebook sucks privacy-wise. You write something and everyone sees it. You don't want your police and ruling-party friends see your pics at a protest and criticizing your government. When people are already on the streets - then its on Facebook. Which is an effect not a cause.
- equalarrow 15y ago
  This is true - FB/Twitter are just tools, just like the Internet is (or at least a platform). Social did not overthrow any governments, but it enabled people to communicate more effectively and thusly organize and do something about their situations. I was just down at FB headquarters last week. Great space. Tons of smart people. Tons. But... I used to be a big believer in FB, but after I started developing apps on their platform, I just started seeing things that I didn't like. You could log into one of our servers, flip on the logging, and just watch all kinds of crap from people I had no connection to scroll by. Besides the fact that most of it was pointless, mindless, drivel (I was saddened by humanity at this point), the fact that this was a 'workaround' around FB's privacy - I dunno, it didn't sit with me well. I haven't personally used FB in a while - over a year - and yet when I glance at my fiancé's wall, god, the most ridiculous crap is on there and it's consistent. I asked her "jesus, does anyone have a fucking life..?!". But beyond that, I just feel like FB is a talent vortex. I went around last week and met so many smart, excited people, yet, I felt they were just suckers. Sure, they're all going to be rich, no doubt about that. And maybe, some will leave to actually start revolutionary companies. But the fact that they're all there coding away on ways to make me the ad or figuring out more efficient ways to share my information (even if I specifically have said not to) - to me, it just seems a waste. It's great for Zuck because, after all, FB owns the copyright to so much of the things that are 'shared'. But it's not great for everyone else. It's not a 'social revolution', it's just about money and, really, conning it out of people in ways they don't understand (yet, ever?).
46Bit 15y ago
Publish it's databases, in so doing likely revealing the private details of 400-600 million people and possibly giving enough details to hack/trick into their bank accounts without any problems? After all, a lot of people do fill out the data sections on Facebook - some people clearly don't find being asked to give it your life as well as your email password atall creepy. I for one welcome our new secretly spying overlords, etc.

by temphn 15y ago

frossie 15y ago

You may be right that Facebook has not peaked, but saying Facebook overthrows countries is kinda like saying the inventor of the quill wrote the Declaration of Independence. Civil dissent overthrows governments. Ubiquitous communication methods certainly help organise civil dissent - but let's not forget that the French in 1789 managed it with pamphlets and soapboxes.

dimitar 15y ago

Facebook or twitter didn't overthrow anyone. Those are just communication tools and there plenty of those. Also Facebook sucks privacy-wise. You write something and everyone sees it. You don't want your police and ruling-party friends see your pics at a protest and criticizing your government. When people are already on the streets - then its on Facebook. Which is an effect not a cause.

equalarrow 15y ago
This is true - FB/Twitter are just tools, just like the Internet is (or at least a platform). Social did not overthrow any governments, but it enabled people to communicate more effectively and thusly organize and do something about their situations. I was just down at FB headquarters last week. Great space. Tons of smart people. Tons. But... I used to be a big believer in FB, but after I started developing apps on their platform, I just started seeing things that I didn't like. You could log into one of our servers, flip on the logging, and just watch all kinds of crap from people I had no connection to scroll by. Besides the fact that most of it was pointless, mindless, drivel (I was saddened by humanity at this point), the fact that this was a 'workaround' around FB's privacy - I dunno, it didn't sit with me well. I haven't personally used FB in a while - over a year - and yet when I glance at my fiancé's wall, god, the most ridiculous crap is on there and it's consistent. I asked her "jesus, does anyone have a fucking life..?!". But beyond that, I just feel like FB is a talent vortex. I went around last week and met so many smart, excited people, yet, I felt they were just suckers. Sure, they're all going to be rich, no doubt about that. And maybe, some will leave to actually start revolutionary companies. But the fact that they're all there coding away on ways to make me the ad or figuring out more efficient ways to share my information (even if I specifically have said not to) - to me, it just seems a waste. It's great for Zuck because, after all, FB owns the copyright to so much of the things that are 'shared'. But it's not great for everyone else. It's not a 'social revolution', it's just about money and, really, conning it out of people in ways they don't understand (yet, ever?).

46Bit 15y ago

Publish it's databases, in so doing likely revealing the private details of 400-600 million people and possibly giving enough details to hack/trick into their bank accounts without any problems? After all, a lot of people do fill out the data sections on Facebook - some people clearly don't find being asked to give it your life as well as your email password atall creepy. I for one welcome our new secretly spying overlords, etc.