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Your case is fundamentally flawed. Just because something doesn’t work in one instance, doesn’t mean that something doesn’t work at all. But even before we get

Your case is fundamentally flawed. Just because something doesn’t work in one instance, doesn’t mean that something doesn’t work at all. But even before we get there, no one in the US is even talking about gun prohibition. This entire comment thread is filled with straw men arguing against prohibition when at most people are demanding more regulation, the majority of which is supported by the majority of gun owners. Also, gun regulation works in the majority of countries with functional governance. Heck, even drug prohibition “works” wherever they really want to prohibit it (such as many Muslim countries). The problem with drug prohibition in the US is not an issue with whether it works or not, but that the cost of enforcement is too high.

slowhand09 6y ago
This is an outright false statement. Many legislators and many activist are in favor of an outright ban. Most know this is anon-starter. They rely on the "death of a 1000 cuts" method instead, where insignificant features are banned or restricted because "nobody cares". In my state, buying a handgun requires a 7 day waiting period. And taking an expensive and time consuming course to obtain an HQL - Handgun Qualifying License. And a background check. And the handgun has to be approved by name on a roster by the legislature.
ceilingcorner 6y ago
> no one in the US is even talking about gun prohibition Seems pretty clear that this is just a political concession, in the same way that pro-life people are for more regulations on abortion. They’d really like to ban it entirely, but that is an unrealistic political non-starter, so the talking points are more compromising. > countries with functional governance Yes, well that is kind of a rare thing historically, hence the need for citizens to be able to defend themselves. Even many so called functional governments weren’t a few decades or half a century ago.
_-david-_ 6y ago
>But even before we get there, no one in the US is even talking about gun prohibition. This is just not true. A couple days ago Senator Dianne Feinstein and Representative David Cicilline announced what they are calling an "Assault Weapons Ban" [1] DC attempted to ban handguns not too long ago and courts shot it down. [2] We have people trying to ban both handguns and rifles. If that is not a gun prohibition I don't know what is. [1] https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ContentRecord_id=0763FFE7-8E3F-4F57-B1C7-E09E161C83D7 https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-rele... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Hell...

slowhand09 6y ago

This is an outright false statement. Many legislators and many activist are in favor of an outright ban. Most know this is anon-starter. They rely on the "death of a 1000 cuts" method instead, where insignificant features are banned or restricted because "nobody cares". In my state, buying a handgun requires a 7 day waiting period. And taking an expensive and time consuming course to obtain an HQL - Handgun Qualifying License. And a background check. And the handgun has to be approved by name on a roster by the legislature.

ceilingcorner 6y ago

> no one in the US is even talking about gun prohibition Seems pretty clear that this is just a political concession, in the same way that pro-life people are for more regulations on abortion. They’d really like to ban it entirely, but that is an unrealistic political non-starter, so the talking points are more compromising. > countries with functional governance Yes, well that is kind of a rare thing historically, hence the need for citizens to be able to defend themselves. Even many so called functional governments weren’t a few decades or half a century ago.

_-david-_ 6y ago

>But even before we get there, no one in the US is even talking about gun prohibition. This is just not true. A couple days ago Senator Dianne Feinstein and Representative David Cicilline announced what they are calling an "Assault Weapons Ban" [1] DC attempted to ban handguns not too long ago and courts shot it down. [2] We have people trying to ban both handguns and rifles. If that is not a gun prohibition I don't know what is. [1] https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ContentRecord_id=0763FFE7-8E3F-4F57-B1C7-E09E161C83D7 https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-rele... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Hell...