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That's the employer's problem. What I find weird is that more people working in high tax-progression countries do not realize that doubling your annual holidays

That's the employer's problem. What I find weird is that more people working in high tax-progression countries do not realize that doubling your annual holidays[1] is actually dirt cheap - and require that as a perk instead of the slightly more expensive car or whatever they are spending that marginal income. [1] or 4 day work week or 6 hour work day or whatever suits your life at the moment

colinmhayes 6y ago
And the employer solves the problem by only hiring developers full time...
sokoloff 6y ago
Employers’ problems and employees’ problems are probably closer than you might think when it comes to sustainable business and employment practices.
laurent92 6y ago
I had an employee who had a clear opinion that some stuff weren’t his duties and that arriving sleepy at work was ok. So, as I said, I “had” an employee. Let’s count in jobs. Basically a man fully dedicated to his job 37hrs/week creates about 1 new position a year, every year, because he makes the processes so efficient that we serve 2x more customers, so we can hire. That guy and another intern, they created -1 job in a year (his project brought literally no customer) and cost us 16k€ + his salary + the intern (I pay my interns, I give hefty bonuses to everyone). I’m not complaining, it’s my job to root out the weed and prune it, and I did a mistake, but you need to understand, as a nation, how many jobs don’t exist because employees live off their colleagues (as for my share, I have created 6 jobs myself so I’ll just collect the huge margins, I’m just vexated he doesn’t collect his margins too). In sectors where everyone thinks it’s not their jobs, people end up harassing each other for the remaining positions. In growing companies, it’s the American dream with free food. The correct middle ground is to own your product for 37 hrs a week, and not delegate questions to be solved by the employer.
- tartoran 6y ago
  You fired your employee for being sleepy in the morning? I think he’s better off not working for you and I’d avoid such employers like you like the plague. Im productive after a coffee in the morning and do arive sleepy at work and thats not your damn business. Getting the job done is a better metric and if you want 100% consistency look to invest into robots. You can’t expect people to submit everything to you. What do you do for them beside paying for their work?
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- beefield 6y ago
  Let's say doubling your holidays means roughly 10% reduction in work time. If a fully dedicated 37.5 h person creates one job per year, could you estimate how many jobs creates a) fully dedicated 41 h person b) fully dedicated 34 h person? Of course, people are different and this is just an anecdote, but from my personal experience (a couple of instances) I can push myself to "fully dedicate" more than 4 hours a day of mentally really hard work - for some months. After that I tell politely that sorry, it is time for me to do something else for a while. More often than not, I have been welcomed back later. Of course, those have been exceptional circumstances, typically there is no need to fully dedicate more than 4 hours of mentally really hard work, but there is some less demanding aspects of the job taking some time off.
- ChuckNorris89 6y ago
  >Basically a man fully dedicated to his job 37hrs/week creates about 1 new position a year, every year, because he makes the processes so efficient that we serve 2x more customers For how long can an employee, ever year, double his efficiency and the amount of customers he serves? That just doesn't sound sustainable. >as a nation Which nation?
TulliusCicero 6y ago
> That's the employer's problem. This is a lazy, cop-out answer.

colinmhayes 6y ago

And the employer solves the problem by only hiring developers full time...

sokoloff 6y ago

Employers’ problems and employees’ problems are probably closer than you might think when it comes to sustainable business and employment practices.

laurent92 6y ago

I had an employee who had a clear opinion that some stuff weren’t his duties and that arriving sleepy at work was ok. So, as I said, I “had” an employee. Let’s count in jobs. Basically a man fully dedicated to his job 37hrs/week creates about 1 new position a year, every year, because he makes the processes so efficient that we serve 2x more customers, so we can hire. That guy and another intern, they created -1 job in a year (his project brought literally no customer) and cost us 16k€ + his salary + the intern (I pay my interns, I give hefty bonuses to everyone). I’m not complaining, it’s my job to root out the weed and prune it, and I did a mistake, but you need to understand, as a nation, how many jobs don’t exist because employees live off their colleagues (as for my share, I have created 6 jobs myself so I’ll just collect the huge margins, I’m just vexated he doesn’t collect his margins too). In sectors where everyone thinks it’s not their jobs, people end up harassing each other for the remaining positions. In growing companies, it’s the American dream with free food. The correct middle ground is to own your product for 37 hrs a week, and not delegate questions to be solved by the employer.

tartoran 6y ago
You fired your employee for being sleepy in the morning? I think he’s better off not working for you and I’d avoid such employers like you like the plague. Im productive after a coffee in the morning and do arive sleepy at work and thats not your damn business. Getting the job done is a better metric and if you want 100% consistency look to invest into robots. You can’t expect people to submit everything to you. What do you do for them beside paying for their work?
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beefield 6y ago
Let's say doubling your holidays means roughly 10% reduction in work time. If a fully dedicated 37.5 h person creates one job per year, could you estimate how many jobs creates a) fully dedicated 41 h person b) fully dedicated 34 h person? Of course, people are different and this is just an anecdote, but from my personal experience (a couple of instances) I can push myself to "fully dedicate" more than 4 hours a day of mentally really hard work - for some months. After that I tell politely that sorry, it is time for me to do something else for a while. More often than not, I have been welcomed back later. Of course, those have been exceptional circumstances, typically there is no need to fully dedicate more than 4 hours of mentally really hard work, but there is some less demanding aspects of the job taking some time off.
ChuckNorris89 6y ago
>Basically a man fully dedicated to his job 37hrs/week creates about 1 new position a year, every year, because he makes the processes so efficient that we serve 2x more customers For how long can an employee, ever year, double his efficiency and the amount of customers he serves? That just doesn't sound sustainable. >as a nation Which nation?

TulliusCicero 6y ago

> That's the employer's problem. This is a lazy, cop-out answer.